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« on: March 08, 2020, 06:26:51 PM »

What if Biden was the nominee instead of Hillary?
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2020, 06:54:45 PM »

He wins with Hillary's map plus Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida. Arizona and North Carolina are very close and could go either way. Iowa and Ohio are much closer, though Trump still takes both narrowly. Georgia and Texas still swing D, maybe even more so than in real life, though I would still bet on Trump for both.

Democrats take back the Senate by flipping PA, WI, MO (I would assume Biden does better there than Hillary), and maybe one or more of NC, FL and IN, in addition to IL and NH.
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2020, 07:01:56 PM »



318-220 Biden

SCOTUS is 6-3 Liberal for a generation

This is gonna make me sick thinking about this..
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2020, 09:05:37 PM »

MI and PA go to him but Trump still wins 270-268.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2020, 12:17:21 AM »



318-220 Biden

SCOTUS is 6-3 Liberal for a generation

This is gonna make me sick thinking about this..

I doubt Kennedy would retire if a Dem was President
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2020, 02:56:44 AM »

Biden wins, but not in a landslide.



✓ Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA): 278 EVs.; 49.6%
Mr. Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Mike Pence (R-IN): 260 EVs.; 46.0%
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2020, 03:15:10 AM »

There's  no doubt he wins, its more of a debate on how much he wins by
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2020, 11:41:54 AM »



318-220 Biden

SCOTUS is 6-3 Liberal for a generation

This is gonna make me sick thinking about this..

I doubt Kennedy would retire if a Dem was President

Good point, forgot about that
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2020, 03:39:24 PM »

Uncle Joe is obviously a stronger candidate than Hillary, so he would have won. I think Arizona wasn't ready to flip in 2016 unless there is a landslide.



✓ Vice President Joseph R. Biden (D-DE)/Mayor Eric Garcetti (D-CA): 323 EV. (50.63%)
Entertainer Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Governor Michael R. Pence (R-IN): 215 EV. (45.98%)
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2020, 07:37:33 PM »

Biden takes all Clinton states + Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, Ohio, Texas, and Iowa.

In the Senate, Dems also take PA, MO, WI, NC, FL, IN, OH, and IA (the latter 2 with better candidates than they had irl).

For Governorships, Dems also win in NH, MO, IN, and VT.

Dems also narrowly take the US House.

Biden wins the NPV by 14 points instead of 2.
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2020, 08:41:49 PM »

Biden takes all Clinton states + Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, Ohio, Texas, and Iowa.

In the Senate, Dems also take PA, MO, WI, NC, FL, IN, OH, and IA (the latter 2 with better candidates than they had irl).

For Governorships, Dems also win in NH, MO, IN, and VT.

Dems also narrowly take the US House.

Biden wins the NPV by 14 points instead of 2.

I don't think Biden wins that big but I do agree eye wins most if them
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2020, 02:49:41 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2020, 03:43:43 PM »

Biden wins, but not in a landslide.



✓ Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA): 278 EVs.; 49.6%
Mr. Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Mike Pence (R-IN): 260 EVs.; 46.0%
This is the most realistic guess imo
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2020, 09:00:23 AM »


VP Joe Biden (D-DE)/Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) 334 EVs; 50.7% PV
Bus. Donald Trump (R-NY)/Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN 204 EVs; 44.9% PV
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2020, 01:02:46 AM »



Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) / National Security Advisor Susan Rice (D-DC)
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY) / Governor Mike Pence (R-IN) ✓
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2020, 02:08:33 PM »

He wins with Hillary's map plus Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida. Arizona and North Carolina are very close and could go either way. Iowa and Ohio are much closer, though Trump still takes both narrowly. Georgia and Texas still swing D, maybe even more so than in real life, though I would still bet on Trump for both.

Democrats take back the Senate by flipping PA, WI, MO (I would assume Biden does better there than Hillary), and maybe one or more of NC, FL and IN, in addition to IL and NH.
Seems about right. Arizona and North Carolina, in my opinion, definitely would flip to Joe Biden. Democrats might regain the House of Representatives as well.
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2020, 02:39:56 PM »

Absolute ceiling for Biden



Biden 413 EV
Trump 125 EV

Absolute Ceiling For Trump:



Trump 329 EV
Biden 209 EV
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