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Skill and Chance
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« on: April 24, 2020, 10:40:41 AM »

Remember that as recently as 2012, people were saying the EC favored Democrats. This could easily be the case in 10 years when states like AZ and GA become D - leaning, and Texas is a tossup.

Yes, the EC has recently favored Democrats and that will in all likelihood be even more so the case (in a lopsided manner) going forward imo.

What do you envision here?  Are you thinking of something like this becoming normal?

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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2020, 09:59:14 PM »

Republicans would campaign in NY and California. There are sizeable Republicans in those states (as a number, not as a percentage of the state’s electorate). So increase the vote total in those states, hold on the currently Republican states, and they have a shot.

It’s speculative to think that Republicans wouldn’t win. If they knew they needed the popular vote, then they would campaign differently than they do now.

I agree with this for 2016.  Most of the 2016 3rd party vote was for right-leaning candidates and 3rd parties ran better in non-competitive states.  Combine that with Trump making 0 effort in California and Clinton putting effort into some of the wrong places for the EC, and Clinton falling short of a majority in the PV, and it becomes very plausible Trump could win an election contested on NPV rules.  Because of the 3rd party vote, I would go so far as to say Trump would be favored if the NPV election had a runoff round.

However, Bush's win in 2000 IMO can only be explained as a fluke of the EC and plurality wins.  Bush was already from Texas and he campaigned actively in California, so unlike Trump I don't see how he squeezes more votes out of either of those states?  And if there's a runoff round it's abundantly clear Gore picks up a lot of the Nader vote.  A runoff result could easily be 52 Gore/48 Bush.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2021, 07:53:00 PM »

The 2020 Hispanic trend shows how it would be possible.
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