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dazzleman
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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2006, 04:02:14 PM »

Is that why the Democrats fought Republican plans to reform welfare, preferring to stick with the then-current failed system?

Same thing with inner city education at this point.

On some fronts, the Democrats are the party of the status quo.
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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2006, 10:02:22 PM »

Is that why the Democrats fought Republican plans to reform welfare, preferring to stick with the then-current failed system?

Same thing with inner city education at this point.

On some fronts, the Democrats are the party of the status quo.

I think he means the overall status quo, which is one of maximal inequality and capitalism.  Those few programs that were instituted in the 1960's are mere bagatelle compared to the pervading institution of the social heirarchy.
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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2006, 10:35:09 PM »

Traditionally or currently?

Traditionally, a strong defence and high readyness (It used to be practially a doctrine that we wouldn't jump into a war unless we had an exit plan or the situation was dire).

Limited government.  The government keeps the peace and builds the roads.  The people have rights, the government has limits.

The buisness of America is buisness.  A healthy economy benefits everyone.

A ballanced budget.  Don't spend more than you take in, pay as you go.

Currently: A millitarally agressive foriegn policy based on Mao's claim that 'political power flows from the barell of a gun'; in which the millitary and readyness is considered expendible.

Expanded government size and powers.  The government controls the people.  Anything the government is not expressly forbiden to do is fair game.

Cronyism.  Friends, donors, and people who will pay you a fortune to make 'speeches' after you leave office are far more important than the American economy.

Pork for everyone.  Consider this the worlds most successful and outragious corporate raid.  The debt your successors inherit is their problem not yours.
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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2006, 10:38:14 PM »

The Republican party stands for the principle that domestic spying is a good idea only if the President is Republican.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/11/233148/167
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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2006, 08:58:38 AM »

Traditionally or currently?

Traditionally, a strong defence and high readyness (It used to be practially a doctrine that we wouldn't jump into a war unless we had an exit plan or the situation was dire).

Limited government.  The government keeps the peace and builds the roads.  The people have rights, the government has limits.

The buisness of America is buisness.  A healthy economy benefits everyone.

A ballanced budget.  Don't spend more than you take in, pay as you go.


I really liked some of the old Republican ideals. I think the fact that they have taken a big old crap all over those ideals is one reason I find myself more pissed at them than I would otherwise be. Not that they haven't done enough to piss me off without that, it's just sort of like adding salt to an open wound.
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« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2006, 03:07:58 PM »

The Republican party stands for the principle that domestic spying is a good idea only if the President is Republican.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/11/233148/167

The fact that you call it "domestic" spying just shows how large your partisan blinders are growing.  Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2006, 09:51:29 PM »

The Republican party stands for the principle that domestic spying is a good idea only if the President is Republican.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/11/233148/167

The fact that you call it "domestic" spying just shows how large your partisan blinders are growing.  Smiley

No, that is the correct way to refer to the practice of violating citizen's privacy.
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« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2006, 09:56:53 PM »

"The single objective of so-called conservatives is the exploitation of everyone else for the sake of their own lifestyle.  Everything else is just marketing and misdirection. 

They can dress up their credit-card-Keynesianism as "supply-side economics," but for the most part they know better.  They can pretend their crass Malthusianism and jingoism are somehow Christian, but their blasphemy stands in stark contrast to this pacifist and anti-materialist religion's sacred texts and long history. 

It's all bullsh**t, and the smarter ones know it. 

But what to make of their followers?  Why in the hell would someone suck up to someone who's just ing them over?  Stockholm syndrome?  Battered-spouse syndrome?  The self-delusion of the pre-rich?  Frustrated Christian-reconstructionists who're happy with any semblance of Talibanesque power? 

The old formula to describe the Republican party is "fools and millionaires."  The millionaires gave up on America after FDR, whom they see as a communist.  He made them actually pull their weight in the country that made them rich, and they've never forgiven him for it.  If America isn't their company-town, their own grapes of wrath labor scenario, their cash-cow, then they're going to take their ball and go home. 

As for the fools, they are the more numerous, the thing that amplifies the millionaries' tiny demographic footprint.  They are the useful idiots who make their own servitude, and ours, possible.  Without them, the millionaires would be bigfooted back into responsibility.  Their weakness betrays us all.  I'm not saying they're a fifth-column, they're too stupid for that.  They're nothing but a weak link." 

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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2006, 09:30:27 PM »

"The single objective of so-called conservatives is the exploitation of everyone else for the sake of their own lifestyle.  Everything else is just marketing and misdirection. 

They can dress up their credit-card-Keynesianism as "supply-side economics," but for the most part they know better.  They can pretend their crass Malthusianism and jingoism are somehow Christian, but their blasphemy stands in stark contrast to this pacifist and anti-materialist religion's sacred texts and long history. 

It's all bullsh**t, and the smarter ones know it. 

But what to make of their followers?  Why in the hell would someone suck up to someone who's just ing them over?  Stockholm syndrome?  Battered-spouse syndrome?  The self-delusion of the pre-rich?  Frustrated Christian-reconstructionists who're happy with any semblance of Talibanesque power? 

The old formula to describe the Republican party is "fools and millionaires."  The millionaires gave up on America after FDR, whom they see as a communist.  He made them actually pull their weight in the country that made them rich, and they've never forgiven him for it.  If America isn't their company-town, their own grapes of wrath labor scenario, their cash-cow, then they're going to take their ball and go home. 

As for the fools, they are the more numerous, the thing that amplifies the millionaries' tiny demographic footprint.  They are the useful idiots who make their own servitude, and ours, possible.  Without them, the millionaires would be bigfooted back into responsibility.  Their weakness betrays us all.  I'm not saying they're a fifth-column, they're too stupid for that.  They're nothing but a weak link." 

Excellent analysis, Scoonie!  I could not agree more!
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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2006, 09:35:37 PM »

We obviously stand for oil wars, religious fanaticism, and social darwinism, you prudes.

True dat
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2006, 10:05:21 PM »

The Republican party stands for the principle that domestic spying is a good idea only if the President is Republican.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/11/233148/167

The fact that you call it "domestic" spying just shows how large your partisan blinders are growing.  Smiley

Maybe he's an internationalist, waiting for either the Fifth National to form. Wink
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