Can white urban Republicans like Giuliani-Riordan win mayoralty again?

[Suburbia]

Can white urban Republicans like Rudy Giuliani and Richard Riordan, who won New York City and Los Angeles' mayoralties with the support of white ethnic voters and white police unions win in the future or is that 1990s type of politics over in America?

[Intell]

Yes, if they mange to get the support of asian Americans and non-ethnic whites that live in Manhattan, Riverdale, Queens, Park Slope etc.

[GP270watch]

No because the national Republican party has made the brand too toxic to city voters. Republican primaries are also not producing candidates that are tolerable to city voters.

[pikachu]

Wouldn’t the modern-day version of this pretty much be the Fords, but in an American context? Though I think it’d be an Independent or a nominal Democrat because the national Republican brand is toxic af in cities and doesn’t show any interest in changing that.

[Fuzzy Says: "Abolish NPR!"]

Riordan won a non-partisan election.

A Giuliani-type could win in NY under the right circumstances.

[jamestroll]

hmmm maybe a county executive of like Harris County, TX (if the equivalent exists). Perhaps Salt Lake County, UT mayor as well.

[pikachu]

Riordan won a non-partisan election.

A Giuliani-type could win in NY under the right circumstances.

Everyone know Riordan was a Republican. Also, just rereading OP again, while I can see the parallels between Riordan and Giuliani, LA's politics have never really been defined by "ethnic whites" - most of the city's literal development happened off the backs of protestant Midwesterners, not European immigrants. Yeah, there were groups of Jews and Italian Catholics, but they never occupied the same place in the city's political imagination like their counterparts in New York did....

[TrendsareUsuallyReal]

Probably not in a city as Democratic as New York or LA nowadays. In a less lopsided city that is “only” 2-1 Democratic, yes. Here in San Antonio for instance we almost elected a Republican last year because the incumbent was a woke moron

[President Johnson]

Isn't Kevin Faulconer of San Diego such a Republican?

[Vosem]

If crime levels return to those of the early 1990s, then yes. If anything those cities had even less favorable demographics to the GOP in 1993 than they do now; the issue is that there's no really pressing reason right now for those cities to diverge from their usual voting patterns.

[Yellowhammer]

It's possible but extremely unlikely in NYC, and entirely impossible in Los Angeles. Large cities can  elect R mayors: San Diego and Miami have them, even if they are more or less RINO's.
Small to medium-sized, Lean/Likely D cities can and will definitely continue to elect Republican mayors on occasion. Omaha, Fort Worth, Mobile, Anaheim, and Fresno come to mind as examples of such cities that have Republican mayors.
Sometimes you get total flukes: for example Savannah, Montgomery, and Atlantic City all had Republican mayors until recently, and El Paso currently has a Republican mayor. All of these cities are extremely democratic, and one wouldn't expect them to be competitive at any level.

[OSR stands with Israel]

If crime levels return to those of the early 1990s, then yes. If anything those cities had even less favorable demographics to the GOP in 1993 than they do now; the issue is that there's no really pressing reason right now for those cities to diverge from their usual voting patterns.

I believe Giuliani still holds the record for most votes in an NYC Mayoral Election

[Indy Texas]

hmmm maybe a county executive of like Harris County, TX (if the equivalent exists). Perhaps Salt Lake County, UT mayor as well.

Harris County had a moderate Republican county executive for several years who went out of his way to distance himself from the national party and he still lost in 2018 to a completely unknown Democrat with no money or name recognition.

[MaxQue]

If crime levels return to those of the early 1990s, then yes. If anything those cities had even less favorable demographics to the GOP in 1993 than they do now; the issue is that there's no really pressing reason right now for those cities to diverge from their usual voting patterns.

I believe Giuliani still holds the record for most votes in an NYC Mayoral Election

Never held it. Record belongs to Robert Wagner second election (1957).

[Del Tachi]

It's a near impossibility because of demographic transformation in these places.  New York City was 43% non-Hispanic White in 1990, compared with just 33% non-Hispanic White today.  Similar story in Los Angeles:  41% non-Hispanic White in 1990, only 26% non-Hispanic White today.  Compare that with Faulconer's San Diego, which is 45% non-Hispanic White today.

[Badger]

If crime levels return to those of the early 1990s, then yes. If anything those cities had even less favorable demographics to the GOP in 1993 than they do now; the issue is that there's no really pressing reason right now for those cities to diverge from their usual voting patterns.

I believe Giuliani still holds the record for most votes in an NYC Mayoral Election

 


And if he ran again today he'd get absolutely buried outside Staten Island. What's your point?

[OSR stands with Israel]

If crime levels return to those of the early 1990s, then yes. If anything those cities had even less favorable demographics to the GOP in 1993 than they do now; the issue is that there's no really pressing reason right now for those cities to diverge from their usual voting patterns.

I believe Giuliani still holds the record for most votes in an NYC Mayoral Election

 


And if he ran again today he'd get absolutely buried outside Staten Island. What's your point?

Shock that number hasnt been broken since

[Nyvin]

I think the main thing that drove NYC to vote in those Republican mayors was the "tough on crime" mantra that was popular back then. 

That's not anywhere close to the case today, in fact it's largely become the opposite.

[SevenEleven]

Isn't Kevin Faulconer of San Diego such a Republican?

San Diego is more suburban than LA or NY, and it's minority community compromised mostly of border Latinos is not nearly as reliable as what you see in other major cities, and that's without getting into the fact that a lot of them are concentrated in neighboring cities such as Chula Vista.