Ukraine general discussion

[Estrella]

https://twitter.com/edolinsky/status/1259395991272411136

[Estrella]

Yeah, Zelensky sucks at all, but this Poroshenko nostalgy reminds me of middle- and upper-class Brazilians complaining about Dilma's incompetence and corruption (which was certainly justified) and then rallying behind Bolsonaro.

IMO, Poroshenko was/is just as bad, just in different ways. Take a look at that caricature: army, faith, language, tomos - I sort of get where that is coming from, but that's not how you build a free, democratic, sort-of-first-world country, instead of Putinist Russia. And that's before we get into corruption and a million other issues.

[Estrella]

Why Opossition Plataform has gone up in the polls and do they have an ideology other than "Rusia not bad"?

Rating of "Opposition Platform" is rising because rating of SOTP is falling. In 2019, most of the pro-Russian electorate voted for Zelensky and SOTP, and now that people are disappointed in Zelensky, the pro-Russian electorate is returning to the OPFL.

In OPLF the main ideology is:
× Europe and USA are bad, Russia is good
× we need Russian as a second state language
× we don't need Ukrainian language at all
× we don't need our autocephalous church
× we have civil war in Ukraine
× Poroshenko is the worst because he is pro-NATO, pro-EU and he is a Ukrainian patriot. Basically all

What's roughly SOTP's floor / OPFL's ceiling?

[Estrella]

- You see, I was born in Austria-Hungary, went to school in Czechoslovakia, served in the Hungarian army, worked in Soviet Union and then retired in Ukraine.

- Wow, you must have travelled a lot!

- Nope, I spent my whole life in Uzhhorod.


Not quite sure if this should go in this thread, but anyway, here it goes. A map of the 1935 election for the assembly of Subcarpathian Ruthenia, today Ukraine's Zakarpattia Oblast but back then a constituent country of First Czechoslovak Republic. Made by the amazing nanwe01 on DeviantArt, along with a writeup I quoted below.

This is the result of the provincial election of 1935 in Subcarpathian Ruthenia. The Provincial Assembly was formed by 18 members, 12 of which were elected from an at-large constituency and one third was appointed by the central government in Prague.

The Agrarians (RSZML) obtained more seats in the elected part of the assembly members than the Communists (the KSČ) because the party ran three separate lists that donated their votes to the largest one in the seat allocation. If they had all ran together from the get-go, the party would have been the largest.

The various Czechoslovak parties had a limited presence in the region, with the exception of the Agrarians. The Czechoslovak Social Democrats (ČSDSD) obtained a single elected seat whereas the other main ones (the quasi-fascist National Union, the left-liberal National Socialists and the Catholic People's Party) had limited following.

Two Hungarian parties obtained representation, the Provincial Christian Socialist Party (OKSzP) and the Hungarian National Party (MNS, MNP in Hungarian). As you can imagine, the former was more moderate whereas the latter was more radically nationalistic. Both parties, like the Rusyn autonomist AZS were financed by Budapest.

Lastly, there was the Ruthenian (National) Autonomous Party (RAS), better known as the Fencivoks after the party leader, Štefan Fencik (Фенцик Степан) a far-right Rusyn nationalist who was also anti-Semitic. The party cooperated at the national level with the National Union but ran separately in the provincial election.

The Agrarians, together with the Czechoslovak Social Democratic, National Socialist and People's Parties formed the assembly majority.