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« on: January 20, 2021, 03:50:33 PM »

https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2019-07/european-election-municipalities-eu-states-results-analysis-map

Of course, some strongholds might mislead a bit (due to the EU parliamentary group affiliations), but generally very informative.
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2021, 04:02:44 PM »

Very nice stuff.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2021, 03:36:33 AM »

The map is great in the sense that it provides information of all countries at local level, but it would have been much better without those inconsistent ideological labels attached to parliamentary group affiliations. For instance the GUE-NGL group (incorporating SYRYZA, Die Linke, Sinn Fein or Unidas Podemos) is labelled "far left", while the extreme Golden Dawn (Greece) is simply labelled as "no group" and Vox (Spain) as "national conservative" alongside the Polish ultraconservative PiS. On the other hand, AfD and the Austrian "liberal" folks are regarded "far right".  It makes little sense, really
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2021, 05:02:04 AM »

The map is great in the sense that it provides information of all countries at local level, but it would have been much better without those inconsistent ideological labels attached to parliamentary group affiliations. For instance the GUE-NGL group (incorporating SYRYZA, Die Linke, Sinn Fein or Unidas Podemos) is labelled "far left", while the extreme Golden Dawn (Greece) is simply labelled as "no group" and Vox (Spain) as "national conservative" alongside the Polish ultraconservative PiS. On the other hand, AfD and the Austrian "liberal" folks are regarded "far right".  It makes little sense, really

It is the only possibility. Nobody wants individual dissertations on the topic "how to label the European parties correctly".
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2021, 05:33:26 AM »

It is the only possibility. Nobody wants individual dissertations on the topic "how to label the European parties correctly".

No, it's more simple than that. Use the actual names of the parliamentary groups, instead the misleading labels, and add a brief description of their composition.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2021, 08:08:51 AM »

I agree with Velasco that it could be presented better but this is a great resource anyways. I wonder what cross border trends exist, if any. My guesses for cross border trends:

>Socdem ethnic russians in the Russian border with Latvia and Estonia
>The centre-right extending from Austria into SüdTyrol
>The centre-right extending from western Germany into rural North Luxembourg and eastern Belgium
>Spain and Portugal having very similar vote distributions
>Perhaps the most comical, the Liberals extending from the Spanish Basque Country (PNV) into the French Basque Country (LREM) Tongue

To be honest, the only "real" ones are the Spain/Portugal one and the Süd Tyrol one maybe. The other ones are pretty much just a coincidence

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2021, 08:17:04 AM »
« Edited: January 21, 2021, 08:23:58 AM by Ethelberth »

Fidesz and ethnic Hungarian parties in Slovakia and Romania. Lithuanian Poles and PiS. Estonian South East has nothing to do with Russians.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2021, 11:37:14 AM »

Macron's electorate: people in towns, the Bretons, people who used to be catholic, and makers of expensive Burgundy wines. Except that the old catholic heartland in the Massif Central has been displaced somewhat westward so that perhaps the logic should be: people in towns, the Bretons, people who live on the western slopes of mountains, and makers of expensie Burgundy wines.

That said, it is... funny? revealing? misleading? a complete coincidence? that the map makes Social Democracy in the 21st century look like essentially a phenomenon of peripheral regions. Even admitting that the Slovakian and Romanian "social democrats" are a little bit, um, different.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2021, 11:45:21 AM »

I agree with Velasco that it could be presented better but this is a great resource anyways. I wonder what cross border trends exist, if any. My guesses for cross border trends:

>Socdem ethnic russians in the Russian border with Latvia and Estonia
>The centre-right extending from Austria into SüdTyrol
>The centre-right extending from western Germany into rural North Luxembourg and eastern Belgium
>Spain and Portugal having very similar vote distributions
>Perhaps the most comical, the Liberals extending from the Spanish Basque Country (PNV) into the French Basque Country (LREM) Tongue

To be honest, the only "real" ones are the Spain/Portugal one and the Süd Tyrol one maybe. The other ones are pretty much just a coincidence


The center-right extending from western Germany into eastern Belgium is from a historical perspective very "real". Rural and small-town areas on both sides of the post-Versailles border are very Catholic and hence were strongholds of the Center Party during the time of the German Empire. It is only natural that the inhabitants of Eastern Belgium continued to vote for parties of that orientation after they had become citizens of Belgium. Belgium since 1919 was a country that treated its new minority quite well compared to the standards of the time and given what Germany had done to Belgium in WWI. The German-speaking community of Belgium nowadays has its own politics and party system and its own EU parliament consituency that elects one representative (always from the Christilich Soziale Partei).
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2021, 06:33:29 AM »

https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2019-07/european-election-municipalities-eu-states-results-analysis-map

Of course, some strongholds might mislead a bit (due to the EU parliamentary group affiliations), but generally very informative.
Seems inaccurate for Belgium.

44.9% for far-left in Comines-Warneton (communists never got a percentage over 30% in any commune in Belgium). Seneffe 37.2% Huh Enghien 30.2%. These are rural municipalities where they're weaker.

Even in Flemish towns like Puurs-Sint Amands 37.2%, Deinze 23.5%, Lievegem 30.2%, Aalter 21%. They do have one thing in common, these are municipalities who were recently fused.

Zelzate and Liege agglomoration seems accurate, but Ghent seems to low.
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