Coronavirus & 2020

[Progressive Pessimist]

If it continues to cause the DOW to plunge like with today, and the Trump administration's CDC cuts are highlighted, the Democrat can use it to their advantage. I have long advocated using fear against the GOP this time, and this could be a good way to do so. I also wouldn't put it past this administration to horribly botch addressing the epidemic.

Most likely though, as with almost everything, people will forget about soon enough and it won't affect anything. Remember when we almost went to war with Iran and how that would affect the election?

[Gass3268]

Why is it that a virus that trump has no control over could hurt him? It’s not like he caused the virus to occur

Obama got killed on Ebola in 2014 and this looks like it could be worse.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

It’s way too early to tell, but I think we can rule this out:

• Trump could handle the virus well in the US similar to Obama and Hurricane Sandy

[It’s so Joever]

Why is it that a virus that trump has no control over could hurt him? It’s not like he caused the virus to occur

Obama got killed on Ebola in 2014 and this looks like it could be worse.

Politics is unfair, like it or not.
Also Trump did cut CDC’s funding, which certainly won’t help us in any way.

[junior chįmp]

Trump said Coronavirus will be gone by April due to "the heat"

Nothing to worry about folks. Trump alone can fix it

[Beet]

Obviously, a lot depends on how he handles it and if the response is seen as competent. Frankly, I've never wished that Hillary Clinton was President more than now. But I'm still rooting for him to be successful because this is bigger than politics.

I mean, sure I'd love to see Trump lose re-election, but drowning in my own lungs doesn't sound too exciting either.

[Epaminondas]

Trump said Coronavirus will be gone by April due to "the heat"

Nothing to worry about folks. Trump alone can fix it

Another Trump epiphany (TM) shared only with his Maga crowd. He know who he wants to survive!

[It’s so Joever]

Obviously, a lot depends on how he handles it and if the response is seen as competent. Frankly, I've never wished that Hillary Clinton was President more than now. But I'm still rooting for him to be successful because this is bigger than politics.

I mean, sure I'd love to see Trump lose re-election, but drowning in my own lungs doesn't sound too exciting either.

Unless you are old or have a preexisting pulmonary condition, you probably wouldn’t develop ARDS from the virus. It’s possible, but not likely.

[It’s so Joever]

Obviously, a lot depends on how he handles it and if the response is seen as competent. Frankly, I've never wished that Hillary Clinton was President more than now. But I'm still rooting for him to be successful because this is bigger than politics.

I mean, sure I'd love to see Trump lose re-election, but drowning in my own lungs doesn't sound too exciting either.

Also to his credit, I have doubts Hillary would have been as vigilant on Chinese/Wuhan flights as Trump has. He could do more, but I bet Hillary would be worse in this way.

[Beet]

Obviously, a lot depends on how he handles it and if the response is seen as competent. Frankly, I've never wished that Hillary Clinton was President more than now. But I'm still rooting for him to be successful because this is bigger than politics.

I mean, sure I'd love to see Trump lose re-election, but drowning in my own lungs doesn't sound too exciting either.

Also to his credit, I have doubts Hillary would have been as vigilant on Chinese/Wuhan flights as Trump has. He could do more, but I bet Hillary would be worse in this way.

I'm not so sure about that. The flight ban happened on the same timeline as other countries, and it has hardly been vigilant. Individual airlines cancelling & voluntary travel reduction have had a much larger effect.

Also, even if we get lucky, there are old people in my life I care about, I don't know about you.

[It’s so Joever]

Obviously, a lot depends on how he handles it and if the response is seen as competent. Frankly, I've never wished that Hillary Clinton was President more than now. But I'm still rooting for him to be successful because this is bigger than politics.

I mean, sure I'd love to see Trump lose re-election, but drowning in my own lungs doesn't sound too exciting either.

Also to his credit, I have doubts Hillary would have been as vigilant on Chinese/Wuhan flights as Trump has. He could do more, but I bet Hillary would be worse in this way.

I'm not so sure about that. The flight ban happened on the same timeline as other countries, and it has hardly been vigilant. Individual airlines cancelling & voluntary travel reduction have had a much larger effect.

Also, even if we get lucky, there are old people in my life I care about, I don't know about you.

Maybe. The real test is whether Trump will restrict movement from South Korea if the Daegu outbreaks gets worse.

[Cyrusman]

Why is it that a virus that trump has no control over could hurt him? It’s not like he caused the virus to occur

Obama got killed on Ebola in 2014 and this looks like it could be worse.

That wasn’t fair either

I get politics is polierrizng and people like to talk sh**t on the other side but it really sucks that we live in a society that people blame the president of the United States if a virus breaks out across the world

[krb08]

If coronavirus becomes a pandemic (tanking the world economy) it will severely hurt Trump. Doesn't matter whether it was his fault or not, the economy is the one thing that could get him reelected, and without it, he has nothing.

[Matty]

Too soon to tell.

one thing it does do is put dems in a pickle when it comes to open immigration

[junior chįmp]

Trump said Coronavirus will be gone by April due to "the heat"

Nothing to worry about folks. Trump alone can fix it

Another Trump epiphany (TM) shared only with his Maga crowd. He know who he wants to survive!

We'll be fine. Sure....Trump is the only guy in history to lose money running a Casino, but his Uncle had a big brain and worked for MIT so who are we to question him

[Former Crackhead Mike Lindell]

Trump and Sanders (and Biden and Bloomberg) are all in their mid-to-late seventies, if the outbreak continues, political rallies will be a breeding ground, a stadium-sized petri dish, and the candidates themselves: as ages go up, so does the mortality rate. How many handshakes and supporter selfies will it take for one of these septuagenarians to contract, and likely DIE, from it?

[SN2903]

It could hurt Democrats because they've been advocating for an open border.  It could hurt Trump if it doesn't calm down and thus causes a worldwide economic slowdown. Too soon to tell. I still believe Bernie is unelectable. He can make it competitive but he can't win. Most electoral votes I see him winning is 2016 + MI

[eric82oslo]

Most likely though, as with almost everything, people will forget about soon enough and it won't affect anything. Remember when we almost went to war with Iran and how that would affect the election?

If it does become a global pandemic, it's not likely to hit USA in a major way until a few months from now. Probably not until late spring or summer, so convention time. Even if USA/North America is mostly spared from the disease, it is still likely to put several countries in Asia, Europe and Oceania into recession (Japan, Australia, UK, South Korea are among the more likely victims), which will then seriously dampen the global growth level, which also will affect the US economy in a substantial way.

In any case, the Corona virus can only have a negative effect on Trump's reelection campaign. Reduced import from China will lead to higher prices and possibly higher unemployment in the US in the short term. The stock market is likely to continue to freak out too, especially since stocks have reached an all time high several times during the past few months. This disease is not easy to contain geographically unlike the ebola virus, and it seems far more contagious too. It doesn't help that symptoms often doesn't occur in a patient until 2-4 weeks after the virus enters the body.

[Brutus Maximus]

To the extent that it becomes worse, and remains a bad situation at election time, I think it would help Trump.  I recall an interesting article outlining some studies about how the fear of death makes people more right wing in their beliefs.

[Donerail]

Helps Trump (elections canceled after martial law imposed)

[NOVA Green]

Coronavirus is a US Non-Partisan virus which will likely lead to a Global Recession.

Europe was already in a Recession Environment, Asia-Pacific was rolling through a slow-down, and the US Stock Market was excessively inflated, despite the lack of wealth gains, while the global rich bastards roll their dice to find whatever profits they can at the hands of Workers from throughout the world as part of their "Global Race to the Bottom"...

Work in a Tech sector with World-Class "Cleanrooms/fabs", and average wages have collapsed from over (20) Years of offshore MFG operations to "tax havens", with Asia-Pacific towards the top.

It used to be many of our Asia-Pacific MFG plants were "in-house" in places like Singapore and Malaysia, where low wage sub-contract labor was the norm...

Increasingly as part of the Fortune 100 Global Supply Chain, there was greater subcontracting to Subcontractors within China...

All business travel is not just banned to China over the past 4 Weeks, but also many other key Supplier markets within Asian-Pacific.

The Company that I work for, which has a large employee population within China (as a Global Company) has forced people to work from home within China, banned all business travel, etc...

Although it's not Trump's fault that this happened, the reality is that it happened to coincided with a time where the US Market was on the verge of collapse as part of a cycle recession, plus all of his "trade war with China BS"....

Strongly suspect that Trump will not win against Bernie in '20 if there is a major US Recession....

Trump started the War against China.... Trump said he was gonna make $$$  bcs of the stock markets, but....

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Best case for Trump: it doesn't get that much worse but stays in the news. US impact is real but minimal and readily handled. The arrival of spring really does help reduce the infection rate. Economic problems can be successfully blamed on the global pandemic, but he can credibly claim to have done a good job responding to it without immediate derisive laughter. Trump spends the fall bragging that the US health care system is the best in the world, and comparing the impact on the US to the impact in nations with some form of universal health care.

Best case for the Dem nominee: a full-blown pandemic sweeps the US. It overwhelms existing healthcare infrastructure which makes the crisis even worse. The web and the MSM are full of video of overcrowded hospitals and stories about people dying on the job because they can't get time off and are terrified of losing their health coverage. Government response is widely seen as inadequate, ineffective, corrupt, and poorly led. Meanwhile, the global economy is tanking and reminding everyone of 2007-2008 as the US economy goes along with it. Trump spends the fall campaigning on how great the economy is and how terrible universal health care would be, insisting that the epidemic is a fake Chinese hoax meant to target him personally.

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

It could hurt Democrats because they've been advocating for an open border.  It could hurt Trump if it doesn't calm down and thus causes a worldwide economic slowdown. Too soon to tell. I still believe Bernie is unelectable. He can make it competitive but he can't win. Most electoral votes I see him winning is 2016 + MI

Of course this turns into another "Bernie can't win" thread

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=360345.0

[Pulaski]

Why is it that a virus that trump has no control over could hurt him? It’s not like he caused the virus to occur

Obama got killed on Ebola in 2014 and this looks like it could be worse.

That wasn’t fair either

I get politics is polierrizng and people like to talk sh**t on the other side but it really sucks that we live in a society that people blame the president of the United States if a virus breaks out across the world

It goes both ways; right now, Trump's riding the coattails of an economy that has little if anything to do with him. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

[The Simpsons Cinematic Universe]

In theory, the rampant increase in Sinophobia helps Trump, but disruption of the global supply chain and economic slump that could result helps the Dems.

At least here in China I expect the situation to mostly have died down pretty soon, so by the time of the election I think this will be way off of US voters' minds.