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« on: February 12, 2020, 02:27:56 AM »

That's my prediction (based on current trends) of the whole case with Electoral College. After GOP candidates would be no longer able to win in Texas and/or Florida in presidential elections, they wouldn't be able to win federally, therefore Republicans will start to talk about a possibility of abolishing or reforming EC.



Texas is still red. Florida is trending red. By the time Texas flips, the entire Midwest except Illinois will be reliably red. The Northeast will be more competetive then.

The electoral college is absolutely necessary for this constitutional republic; it gives power to the individual states and guarantees that the president has a wide coalition. With a national popular vote, cheating and voter fraud would be drastically empowered. Some blue states are allowing non-citizens to vote and they have many dead people on voter rolls. The electoral college confines the effect of those unfair policies to only those areas and not the whole country. A national popular vote would also mean 140 million vote recounts, which would mean more fraud, more work for election workers, and more division and controversy.

The Democrats want the national popular vote because they are the ones who are struggling to build a winning coalition. The Democrats' plan of the national popular vote goes hand-in-hand with their plan to give more rights to illegal aliens (including voting). They just want more power and bigger government, they don't care about Americans.
some red states are literally kicking people off voter rolls very conveniently in time for the election but you don't seem to be complaining about that!
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2020, 07:21:37 PM »

That's my prediction (based on current trends) of the whole case with Electoral College. After GOP candidates would be no longer able to win in Texas and/or Florida in presidential elections, they wouldn't be able to win federally, therefore Republicans will start to talk about a possibility of abolishing or reforming EC.



Texas is still red. Florida is trending red. By the time Texas flips, the entire Midwest except Illinois will be reliably red. The Northeast will be more competetive then.

The electoral college is absolutely necessary for this constitutional republic; it gives power to the individual states and guarantees that the president has a wide coalition. With a national popular vote, cheating and voter fraud would be drastically empowered. Some blue states are allowing non-citizens to vote and they have many dead people on voter rolls. The electoral college confines the effect of those unfair policies to only those areas and not the whole country. A national popular vote would also mean 140 million vote recounts, which would mean more fraud, more work for election workers, and more division and controversy.

The Democrats want the national popular vote because they are the ones who are struggling to build a winning coalition. The Democrats' plan of the national popular vote goes hand-in-hand with their plan to give more rights to illegal aliens (including voting). They just want more power and bigger government, they don't care about Americans.
some red states are literally kicking people off voter rolls very conveniently in time for the election but you don't seem to be complaining about that!

They're only taking dead people off the voter rolls. Stop being dishonest. You're also in a way agreeing with my point that misconduct could affect an election, you're just looking in the wrong places for it.
There needs to be a lot more oversight to make sure no actual voters are being taken off the rolls. And this has happened before. According to this if there's suspicion someone moved and they don't reply to a letter, they can be taken off the list. Not exactly a fair process.

Anyway of course misconduct can affect an election. But I don't exactly see why that's up for a debate.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2020, 01:01:15 AM »

That's my prediction (based on current trends) of the whole case with Electoral College. After GOP candidates would be no longer able to win in Texas and/or Florida in presidential elections, they wouldn't be able to win federally, therefore Republicans will start to talk about a possibility of abolishing or reforming EC.



Texas is still red. Florida is trending red. By the time Texas flips, the entire Midwest except Illinois will be reliably red. The Northeast will be more competetive then.

The electoral college is absolutely necessary for this constitutional republic; it gives power to the individual states and guarantees that the president has a wide coalition. With a national popular vote, cheating and voter fraud would be drastically empowered. Some blue states are allowing non-citizens to vote and they have many dead people on voter rolls. The electoral college confines the effect of those unfair policies to only those areas and not the whole country. A national popular vote would also mean 140 million vote recounts, which would mean more fraud, more work for election workers, and more division and controversy.

The Democrats want the national popular vote because they are the ones who are struggling to build a winning coalition. The Democrats' plan of the national popular vote goes hand-in-hand with their plan to give more rights to illegal aliens (including voting). They just want more power and bigger government, they don't care about Americans.
some red states are literally kicking people off voter rolls very conveniently in time for the election but you don't seem to be complaining about that!

They're only taking dead people off the voter rolls. Stop being dishonest. You're also in a way agreeing with my point that misconduct could affect an election, you're just looking in the wrong places for it.
There needs to be a lot more oversight to make sure no actual voters are being taken off the rolls. And this has happened before. According to this if there's suspicion someone moved and they don't reply to a letter, they can be taken off the list. Not exactly a fair process.

Anyway of course misconduct can affect an election. But I don't exactly see why that's up for a debate.

If they get taken off of the roll after they failed to reply to a letter that's their own fault. What's your point?
That once you're registered you should stay registered unless you die or move out of state?
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Dr. MB
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2020, 01:17:12 AM »

That's my prediction (based on current trends) of the whole case with Electoral College. After GOP candidates would be no longer able to win in Texas and/or Florida in presidential elections, they wouldn't be able to win federally, therefore Republicans will start to talk about a possibility of abolishing or reforming EC.



Texas is still red. Florida is trending red. By the time Texas flips, the entire Midwest except Illinois will be reliably red. The Northeast will be more competetive then.

The electoral college is absolutely necessary for this constitutional republic; it gives power to the individual states and guarantees that the president has a wide coalition. With a national popular vote, cheating and voter fraud would be drastically empowered. Some blue states are allowing non-citizens to vote and they have many dead people on voter rolls. The electoral college confines the effect of those unfair policies to only those areas and not the whole country. A national popular vote would also mean 140 million vote recounts, which would mean more fraud, more work for election workers, and more division and controversy.

The Democrats want the national popular vote because they are the ones who are struggling to build a winning coalition. The Democrats' plan of the national popular vote goes hand-in-hand with their plan to give more rights to illegal aliens (including voting). They just want more power and bigger government, they don't care about Americans.
some red states are literally kicking people off voter rolls very conveniently in time for the election but you don't seem to be complaining about that!

They're only taking dead people off the voter rolls. Stop being dishonest. You're also in a way agreeing with my point that misconduct could affect an election, you're just looking in the wrong places for it.
There needs to be a lot more oversight to make sure no actual voters are being taken off the rolls. And this has happened before. According to this if there's suspicion someone moved and they don't reply to a letter, they can be taken off the list. Not exactly a fair process.

Anyway of course misconduct can affect an election. But I don't exactly see why that's up for a debate.

If they get taken off of the roll after they failed to reply to a letter that's their own fault. What's your point?
That once you're registered you should stay registered unless you die or move out of state?

Well, I think the letter would be to check on them to find out whether or not they died or left; seems like a good idea. Regardless, it's their own fault that they didn't respond to the letter. People have to be responsible.
There's gotta be a better and more efficient way to do it. Maybe...looking at death certificates or house sale/rental records or something?
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