Colorado 2020 U.S. House Redistricting Discussion

[BoiseBoy]

Round three tally is unchanged from round two.

Staff Plan 3 Coleman Amendment - 7 votes
P.007.Tafoya ("Headwaters Amended") - 3 votes
Tafoya Workshop Adjusted - 2 votes

[Oryxslayer]

So if they can’t agree, the third staff plan goes to the Supreme Court to approve?

Also if they do agree, the proposed plan goes before the court as the executive, instead of the governor. They have three months for whatever decided here to be approved or rejected, and if it is rejected, the court will tell them what to change for a subsequent proposal. Deadline for implementation is the new year.

So tonight is most certainly not the end of things.

[Nyvin]

The Coleman Amendment map has CO-8 as Biden+4.6,  probably tossup in 2022, but it would be trending D overall.

The other districts are all safe for their respective parties until Colorado Springs turns competitive.

Crappy map overall IMO.

Schell and Leone both come off as total R hacks,  Schell even said that she's only comfortable with a 4-3-1 map and not a 5-3 map (literally saying the D advantage in the other map was too large).  

Wow, now the vote is 6 Tafoya and 5 Coleman and 1 Moore.

[BoiseBoy]

Round 4 Tally:

Tafoya Workshop Adjusted Amendment (Tafoya
Amendment 2) - 6 votes
Staff Plan 3 Coleman Amendment - 5 votes
P.007.Tafoya ("Headwaters Amended") - 1 vote

[Nyvin]

The 1 odd vote was a mistake, he meant to vote with the 6.

[lfromnj]

The Coleman Amendment map has CO-8 as Biden+4.6,  probably tossup in 2022, but it would be trending D overall.

The other districts are all safe for their respective parties until Colorado Springs turns competitive.

Crappy map overall IMO.

Schell and Leone both come off as total R hacks,  Schell even said that she's only comfortable with a 4-3-1 map and not a 5-3 map (literally saying the D advantage in the other map was too large).  

Wow, now the vote is 6 Tafoya and 5 Coleman and 1 Moore.

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The district was Obama +7 in 2012. Its a very weird district overall and I think it has voted for the presidential winner ever since 1980. There is a chance it could trend D with the rest of Colorado but also a decent chance it stays as a mild Dem leaning swing district.

[BoiseBoy]

The Tafoya Workshop Adjusted Map is far more DEM friendly than the Coleman one. CO-03 is 0.3 points more DEM. CO-05 is 0.1 points more DEM. CO-06 is 0.4 points more DEM. CO-07 is 2 points more DEM. CO-08 has a larger shift and is 6 points more DEM.

[LimoLiberal]

The Tafoya Workshop Adjusted Map is far more DEM friendly than the Coleman one. CO-03 is 0.3 points more DEM. CO-05 is 0.1 points more DEM. CO-06 is 0.4 points more DEM. CO-07 is 2 points more DEM. CO-08 has a larger shift and is 6 points more DEM.

Ram it through!

[Sol]

It's pretty bizarre that the commission seems to be carefully ignoring the massive amount of public comment discouraging a link of eastern CO with the Front Range in this quixotic quest to put Hispano areas of South Colorado in with Grand Junction. Literally why is this worth destroying the map over when you could just put all of these areas in the 4th?

[BoiseBoy]

https://twitter.com/nickriccardi/status/1443066846945677316

[lfromnj]

https://twitter.com/nickriccardi/status/1443066846945677316

Interesting, I actually called this a few months ago on discord noting that Schell was the only indy without the words diversity/equity in their bio.

Schell also voted to keep prisoners counted in their prisons instead of their cities.

[LimoLiberal]

Pretty good last minute drama

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1443069095134568457

[BoiseBoy]

Pretty good last minute drama

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1443069095134568457

Tweet was deleted. What happened?

[LimoLiberal]

Pretty good last minute drama

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1443069095134568457

Tweet was deleted. What happened?

The tweet said that a (de facto) Republican commissioner was switching their vote to a map that had previously had 0 votes with three swing districts, indicating the previous 4-3-1 wasn't viable. Don't know if all that's accurate given the deletion.

Edit:
Here's the updated version
https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1443070278351953922

[Nyvin]

It kinda sounds like the 4 R's plus Schell are solid on voting for Coleman, so I assume it's deadlocked.  The other 7 all support Tafoya now.

[BoiseBoy]

It kinda sounds like the 4 R's plus Schell are solid on voting for Coleman, so I assume it's deadlocked.  The other 7 all support Tafoya now.

How many more rounds are there before Staff Plan 3 is automatically chosen?

[Nyvin]

It kinda sounds like the 4 R's plus Schell are solid on voting for Coleman, so I assume it's deadlocked.  The other 7 all support Tafoya now.

How many more rounds are there before Staff Plan 3 is automatically chosen?

Why would Staff Plan 3 be chosen?

[BoiseBoy]

It kinda sounds like the 4 R's plus Schell are solid on voting for Coleman, so I assume it's deadlocked.  The other 7 all support Tafoya now.

How many more rounds are there before Staff Plan 3 is automatically chosen?

Why would Staff Plan 3 be chosen?

Because if the commission deadlocks it will be the plan submitted to the state Supreme Court.

[Nyvin]

It kinda sounds like the 4 R's plus Schell are solid on voting for Coleman, so I assume it's deadlocked.  The other 7 all support Tafoya now.

How many more rounds are there before Staff Plan 3 is automatically chosen?

Why would Staff Plan 3 be chosen?

Because if the commission deadlocks it will be the plan submitted to the state Supreme Court.

The unedited one?  Didn't realize that.   What are the number for CO-8 on that map?

[BoiseBoy]

It kinda sounds like the 4 R's plus Schell are solid on voting for Coleman, so I assume it's deadlocked.  The other 7 all support Tafoya now.

How many more rounds are there before Staff Plan 3 is automatically chosen?

Why would Staff Plan 3 be chosen?

Because if the commission deadlocks it will be the plan submitted to the state Supreme Court.

The unedited one?  Didn't realize that.   What are the number for CO-8 on that map?

Went from Trump +1.8 to Biden +4.6.

[Nyvin]

It kinda sounds like the 4 R's plus Schell are solid on voting for Coleman, so I assume it's deadlocked.  The other 7 all support Tafoya now.

How many more rounds are there before Staff Plan 3 is automatically chosen?

Why would Staff Plan 3 be chosen?

Because if the commission deadlocks it will be the plan submitted to the state Supreme Court.

The unedited one?  Didn't realize that.   What are the number for CO-8 on that map?

Went from Trump +1.8 to Biden +4.6.

That sucks.  oh well, the map is unfavorable but not terrible.

Darn mountain time...I need to go to bed.

[Nyvin]

The Coleman Amendment map has CO-8 as Biden+4.6,  probably tossup in 2022, but it would be trending D overall.

The other districts are all safe for their respective parties until Colorado Springs turns competitive.

Crappy map overall IMO.

Schell and Leone both come off as total R hacks,  Schell even said that she's only comfortable with a 4-3-1 map and not a 5-3 map (literally saying the D advantage in the other map was too large).  

Wow, now the vote is 6 Tafoya and 5 Coleman and 1 Moore.

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The district was Obama +7 in 2012. Its a very weird district overall and I think it has voted for the presidential winner ever since 1980. There is a chance it could trend D with the rest of Colorado but also a decent chance it stays as a mild Dem leaning swing district.

2012 is ancient history.   I'd bet more than 40% of the people there are new voters from 2012 now.

[Oryxslayer]

It kinda sounds like the 4 R's plus Schell are solid on voting for Coleman, so I assume it's deadlocked.  The other 7 all support Tafoya now.

How many more rounds are there before Staff Plan 3 is automatically chosen?

Why would Staff Plan 3 be chosen?

Because if the commission deadlocks it will be the plan submitted to the state Supreme Court.

The unedited one?  Didn't realize that.   What are the number for CO-8 on that map?

Went from Trump +1.8 to Biden +4.6.

That sucks.  oh well, the map is unfavorable but not terrible.

Darn mountain time...I need to go to bed.

So if they can’t agree, the third staff plan goes to the Supreme Court to approve?

Also if they do agree, the proposed plan goes before the court as the executive, instead of the governor. They have three months for whatever decided here to be approved or rejected, and if it is rejected, the court will tell them what to change for a subsequent proposal. Deadline for implementation is the new year.

So tonight is most certainly not the end of things.

[Devils30]

Dems should challenge this at the state Sup. Ct and ask it to go back to drawing board. It's not reflective of the state at all and has weird lines.

[Gass3268]

Dems should challenge this at the state Sup. Ct and ask it to go back to drawing board. It's not reflective of the state at all and has weird lines.

Just have the State Supreme Court draw the map.