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« Reply #675 on: January 31, 2022, 01:26:38 PM »
Great job, I love it when deadlines are missed.
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« Reply #676 on: January 31, 2022, 01:54:45 PM »



It was intentional. As was expected for months, Persily is probably gonna be coming back.
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« Reply #677 on: January 31, 2022, 02:26:56 PM »
Quote from: Oryxslayer on January 31, 2022, 01:54:45 PM



It was intentional. As was expected for months, Persily is probably gonna be coming back.

All hail the Mapmaker in Chief! Cool
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« Reply #678 on: January 31, 2022, 02:27:18 PM »
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Quote from: Oryxslayer on January 31, 2022, 01:54:45 PM



It was intentional. As was expected for months, Persily is probably gonna be coming back.

All hail the Mapmaker in Chief! Cool

The guy who drew ny 10 as it is right now and cracked southern Brooklyn into 3 CD s?
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« Reply #679 on: January 31, 2022, 02:28:14 PM »
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Quote from: Doctor V on January 31, 2022, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: Oryxslayer on January 31, 2022, 01:54:45 PM



It was intentional. As was expected for months, Persily is probably gonna be coming back.

All hail the Mapmaker in Chief! Cool

The guy who drew ny 10 as it is right now and cracked southern Brooklyn into 3 CD s?

Persily had a hand in that? I had no idea.
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« Reply #680 on: January 31, 2022, 02:33:03 PM »
Quote from: Doctor V on January 31, 2022, 02:28:14 PM
Quote from: lfromnj on January 31, 2022, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: Doctor V on January 31, 2022, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: Oryxslayer on January 31, 2022, 01:54:45 PM



It was intentional. As was expected for months, Persily is probably gonna be coming back.

All hail the Mapmaker in Chief! Cool

The guy who drew ny 10 as it is right now and cracked southern Brooklyn into 3 CD s?

Persily had a hand in that? I had no idea.

Yeah pretty sure he was the special master. Forgive me if he wasn't.   The solution would have been to cut a Manhattan cd but not southern Brooklyn just got screwed to give up to their Manhattan overlords.
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« Reply #681 on: January 31, 2022, 02:39:08 PM »
« Edited: January 31, 2022, 02:42:21 PM by Oryxslayer »
Quote from: lfromnj on January 31, 2022, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: Doctor V on January 31, 2022, 02:28:14 PM
Quote from: lfromnj on January 31, 2022, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: Doctor V on January 31, 2022, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: Oryxslayer on January 31, 2022, 01:54:45 PM



It was intentional. As was expected for months, Persily is probably gonna be coming back.

All hail the Mapmaker in Chief! Cool

The guy who drew ny 10 as it is right now and cracked southern Brooklyn into 3 CD s?

Persily had a hand in that? I had no idea.

Yeah pretty sure he was the special master. Forgive me if he wasn't.   The solution would have been to cut a Manhattan cd but not southern Brooklyn just got screwed to give up to their Manhattan overlords.

Persily was not the special master. He was the data guy hired to assist U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne Mann, who was said special master. He was hired then because of his recent success in Connecticut. In this instance, evidence suggests he was just the computer guy, taking orders from Mann whereas in PA he had loose orders and broad discretion to fulfill specific goals. Interestingly, he then was at Columbia whereas now he is at Stanford.
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« Reply #682 on: January 31, 2022, 02:40:43 PM »
Quote from: Oryxslayer on January 31, 2022, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: lfromnj on January 31, 2022, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: Doctor V on January 31, 2022, 02:28:14 PM
Quote from: lfromnj on January 31, 2022, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: Doctor V on January 31, 2022, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: Oryxslayer on January 31, 2022, 01:54:45 PM



It was intentional. As was expected for months, Persily is probably gonna be coming back.

All hail the Mapmaker in Chief! Cool

The guy who drew ny 10 as it is right now and cracked southern Brooklyn into 3 CD s?

Persily had a hand in that? I had no idea.

Yeah pretty sure he was the special master. Forgive me if he wasn't.   The solution would have been to cut a Manhattan cd but not southern Brooklyn just got screwed to give up to their Manhattan overlords.

Persily was not the special master. He was the data guy hired to assist U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne Man, who was said special master. he was hired in that instance because of his success in Connecticut. In this instance, evidence suggests he was just the computer guy, taking orders from Mann whereas in PA he had loose orders but specific goals.

Ah my bad. I do remember reading he was involved so  I assumed he was the special master.
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« Reply #683 on: January 31, 2022, 02:44:06 PM »
Quote from: lfromnj on January 31, 2022, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: Oryxslayer on January 31, 2022, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: lfromnj on January 31, 2022, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: Doctor V on January 31, 2022, 02:28:14 PM
Quote from: lfromnj on January 31, 2022, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: Doctor V on January 31, 2022, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: Oryxslayer on January 31, 2022, 01:54:45 PM



It was intentional. As was expected for months, Persily is probably gonna be coming back.

All hail the Mapmaker in Chief! Cool

The guy who drew ny 10 as it is right now and cracked southern Brooklyn into 3 CD s?

Persily had a hand in that? I had no idea.

Yeah pretty sure he was the special master. Forgive me if he wasn't.   The solution would have been to cut a Manhattan cd but not southern Brooklyn just got screwed to give up to their Manhattan overlords.

Persily was not the special master. He was the data guy hired to assist U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne Man, who was said special master. he was hired in that instance because of his success in Connecticut. In this instance, evidence suggests he was just the computer guy, taking orders from Mann whereas in PA he had loose orders but specific goals.

Ah my bad. I do remember reading he was involved so  I assumed he was the special master.

Yeah, I remember digging through the old 2010 thread and saw people referred to said special master as a 'she,' so I had the reverse thought process and went "hold on, that ain't right, was Persily actually involved?"
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« Reply #684 on: February 01, 2022, 10:13:30 AM »
Glad to see the special master is coming back. The GOP-led Commonwealth Court should not even bother.
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« Reply #685 on: February 02, 2022, 02:53:17 PM »
The PASC has taken over the process.
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« Reply #686 on: February 02, 2022, 02:54:33 PM »
It ends where it began.
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« Reply #687 on: February 02, 2022, 03:08:01 PM »
Prolly end up with a MI style map. Relatively compact and clean lines with small decisions made to help Dems overcome geography
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« Reply #688 on: February 02, 2022, 03:27:51 PM »
I actually wonder if they'll split Pittsburgh to make a second Biden seat in Western PA.
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« Reply #689 on: February 02, 2022, 03:34:40 PM »
Quote from: Roll Roons on February 02, 2022, 03:27:51 PM
I actually wonder if they'll split Pittsburgh to make a second Biden seat in Western PA.

You don't need to. You can get reasonable seats in the region and the successor to Lamb's seat can still be to the left of the nation in 2020. Splitting Pittsburgh though makes 2 reliably D seats, rather than 1 safe and one battleground. And they might go for it if the expansion of the SEPA seats is too disadvantageous for Ds.
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« Reply #690 on: February 02, 2022, 03:52:54 PM »
Excellent news! Partisanship aside, a Persily-drawn court-mandated map will almost certainly be a lot fairer than a bipartisan deal, which usually means incumbent protection monstrosities.
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« Reply #691 on: February 02, 2022, 06:42:51 PM »
How many seats do we think could come out of PA now?
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« Reply #692 on: February 02, 2022, 06:49:10 PM »
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How many seats do we think could come out of PA now?
My guess is 8 Trump seats and 9 Biden seats.
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« Reply #693 on: February 02, 2022, 06:54:08 PM »
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How many seats do we think could come out of PA now?
My guess is 8 Trump seats and 9 Biden seats.

My guess is only five truly safe Democratic seats - four in SEPA (two in Philly proper, two in the suburbs) and one in Pittsburgh. The Lehigh Valley seat will be perennially close, Fitz is likely unbeatable while he's around, Houlahan will likely have to pick up some redder territory and a suburban Pittsburgh seat will be only light blue at most.
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« Reply #694 on: February 02, 2022, 07:08:02 PM »
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How many seats do we think could come out of PA now?

The answer is a least change map partisan-wise: each side with similar number of safe seats and some competitive ones in the middle. If preserving this requires breaking some eggs and reshuffling the lines - well we saw how amenable they were to such things in 2018. If they truly add more to the dems deck - either by moving competitive seats to a more Biden-friendly margin, or moving them into the safer blue column - then that would just be a proverbial Bonus for team blue.
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« Reply #695 on: February 04, 2022, 01:35:11 PM »
The PA legislative redistricting commission is unveiling the final(?) legislative lines, small edits are present from the first version. You can check out this thread by Forstate for live updates:
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« Reply #696 on: February 04, 2022, 02:30:40 PM »


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« Reply #697 on: February 04, 2022, 03:14:35 PM »

Seems like 25-25 in 2020?
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« Reply #698 on: February 04, 2022, 03:18:30 PM »
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« Reply #699 on: February 04, 2022, 03:19:50 PM »
The Senate map got MUCH fairer. 25 Biden districts, 25 Trump districts, and 2 for each decided by less than 1.5%.
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