Trump will win in 2020. It is necessary.
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« on: February 13, 2020, 01:50:33 AM »

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1.Let T = “Trump will win in 2020.”
2.Necessarily: If T is true, then Trump will win in 2020.
3.Necessarily: If T is false, then Trump will not win in 2020.
4.What is necessitated by facts about the present and past is historically necessary (at this point, itcannot be avoided).
5.If T is now true, then it is necessitated by facts about the present that Trump will win in 2020 (by2).
6.If T is now false, then it is necessitated by facts about the present that Trump will not win in 2020(by 3).
7.If bivalence holds for T, then T is now either true or false.
8.So, if bivalence holds for T, then either it cannot be avoided that Trump will win in 2020 or it cannotbe avoided that Trump will not win in 2020 (by 4, 5, 6, 7).
9.Since, either way, there is no way to avoid the outcome, we shouldn’t campaign for our favored candidate.

This is from my Aristotle class. What do you think, anon?
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2020, 03:02:02 AM »

Kind of silly because using your logic, neither Trump nor his opponents should spend a dime on campaigning because the outcome is unavoidable.  And if I understand this you're suggesting that ads, rallies, speeches, canvassing, GOTV, social media, etc. have no effect on elections at all?  If that's the case, why would any candidates bother running campaigns in the first place?
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2020, 03:43:23 AM »

Even assuming point 4 ( the immutability of the future) were true, you are wrongly assuming that the end of politics is who gets which office, whereas a true Aristotelian would hold that the proper end of politics is the cultivation of virtue, of which campaigning for favored candidates is a means to that end.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2020, 04:02:36 AM »

Even assuming point 4 ( the immutability of the future) were true, you are wrongly assuming that the end of politics is who gets which office, whereas a true Aristotelian would hold that the proper end of politics is the cultivation of virtue, of which campaigning for favored candidates is a means to that end.

I have to say... of all the phrases that come to mind while watching the Atlas Democrats cannibalize their young this cycle, "the cultivation of virtue" is not one of them.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2020, 04:09:00 AM »

Don't Stop me now
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2020, 07:50:05 AM »

Even assuming point 4 ( the immutability of the future) were true, you are wrongly assuming that the end of politics is who gets which office, whereas a true Aristotelian would hold that the proper end of politics is the cultivation of virtue, of which campaigning for favored candidates is a means to that end.

I have to say... of all the phrases that come to mind while watching the Atlas Democrats cannibalize their young this cycle, "the cultivation of virtue" is not one of them.

It certainly doesn't apply to most Republicans this cycle with their slavish unthinking devotion to Trump.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2020, 10:09:09 PM »

Even assuming point 4 ( the immutability of the future) were true, you are wrongly assuming that the end of politics is who gets which office, whereas a true Aristotelian would hold that the proper end of politics is the cultivation of virtue, of which campaigning for favored candidates is a means to that end.

I have to say... of all the phrases that come to mind while watching the Atlas Democrats cannibalize their young this cycle, "the cultivation of virtue" is not one of them.

It certainly doesn't apply to most Republicans this cycle with their slavish unthinking devotion to Trump.

     At the risk of being trite, the cultivation of virtue has not been seriously pursued by politicians in many, many years.
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