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« on: January 02, 2020, 09:04:39 PM »
« edited: September 27, 2020, 02:39:46 PM by GeorgiaModerate »

If true...

Soleimani was a bad actor and I will shed no tears for him.  But this may have a major destabilizing effect on the region.  Stay tuned.
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2020, 09:05:41 PM »
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=352862.0
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2020, 09:06:39 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2020, 09:07:54 PM »
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=352862.msg7112658#msg7112658
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2020, 09:18:14 PM »
This is totally not starting a war to distract from the impeachment. nope.
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2020, 09:25:27 PM »
Are we sure this actually happened? It seems like by now there would have been some tweets from Trump about how perfect the air strike was.
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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2020, 09:29:07 PM »
Lol Chris Murphy wanted a congressional vote on assassinating Soleimani? What a dope.
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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2020, 09:33:10 PM »
Bringing back this gem:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/01/opinion/sunday/donald-the-dove-hillary-the-hawk.html
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2020, 09:40:36 PM »
Quote from: TG on January 02, 2020, 09:18:14 PM
This is totally not starting a war to distract from the impeachment. nope.
Which is funny since from what i can tell there is a decent chunk of his base that is isolationist and are likely to get rather ticked off if he goes and starts a new war the Middle East especially against Iran which is a far tougher enemy than either Iraq or Afghanistan.
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2020, 09:47:15 PM »
This is a drastic escalation. The US is plainly assassinating top Iranian military leaders in a capital city. This could definitely count as a declaration of war.
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2020, 09:52:42 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2020, 10:09:02 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2020, 10:11:14 PM »
Yeah, impeach this @&€+(## now
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2020, 10:15:04 PM »
Quote from: Impeachment Inquiry on January 02, 2020, 09:25:27 PM
Are we sure this actually happened? It seems like by now there would have been some tweets from Trump about how perfect the air strike was.
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2020, 10:16:29 PM »
Under what authorization does Trump have to essentially declare war on Iran?
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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2020, 10:16:46 PM »
Quote from: BP1202 on January 02, 2020, 10:15:35 PM
Anybody who thinks this was a good decision is a bloodthirsty psychopath.
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2020, 10:19:33 PM »
Quote from: Blue3 on January 02, 2020, 09:47:15 PM
This is a drastic escalation. The US is plainly assassinating top Iranian military leaders in a capital city. This could definitely count as a declaration of war.

Will the price of oil will go up?

Will the US economy and military be hurt?

Will Benedict Donald's Russian owners benefit?
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2020, 10:19:33 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2020, 10:27:25 PM »
There's the "dove" that you wanted, Trump supporters, subverting Constitutionally-mandated congressional checks and balances at his whim, yet again.

This guy is a ticking time bomb, and we, as Americans, will be paying for his sham presidency for decades to come.
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2020, 10:31:42 PM »
Once the war starts, Russia will probably invade & annex either Ukraine, Belarus, or a Baltic state.  He's been waiting for an opening like this.  Something to distract the US/Europe.
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2020, 10:32:20 PM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on January 02, 2020, 10:16:29 PM
Under what authorization does Trump have to essentially declare war on Iran?

Chuck Schumer apparently was not even notified in advance, and if anyone in Congress were he would be among them.. you would think..
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2020, 10:33:22 PM »
Oh wow. That's a big yikes. Hopefully this doesn't start another Middle Eastern war, especially since Iran is a whole different beast than Iraq, and may have nukes to boot.

i don't want to get drafted aaaaaaa
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2020, 10:35:10 PM »
Quote from: Ghost of Ruin on January 02, 2020, 10:19:33 PM
Quote from: Blue3 on January 02, 2020, 09:47:15 PM
This is a drastic escalation. The US is plainly assassinating top Iranian military leaders in a capital city. This could definitely count as a declaration of war.
Will Benedict Donald's Russian owners benefit?
If you knew anything about geopolitics, you'd know that the answer is a clear no. Iran has been crucial for Assad's survival.
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2020, 10:36:17 PM »
Quote from: ugabug on January 02, 2020, 09:40:36 PM
Quote from: TG on January 02, 2020, 09:18:14 PM
This is totally not starting a war to distract from the impeachment. nope.
Which is funny since from what i can tell there is a decent chunk of his base that is isolationist and are likely to get rather ticked off if he goes and starts a new war the Middle East especially against Iran which is a far tougher enemy than either Iraq or Afghanistan.

The good thing is that this can lead to defections at the margins, and Trump's electoral coalition has very tight margins.

But his base is going to fall in line. The groundwork is already being laid, and you know Fox will disseminate whatever message the WH puts out.



Quote from: PA is Lean D on January 02, 2020, 10:19:33 PM


The terrifying thing is that this administration lies about most things, so I don't know how much stock we can put in this. I don't know how much the Pentagon would be insulted from this bug past experience says not much.
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2020, 10:38:25 PM »
Does anyone here think the draft will be reinstated for whatever conflict ends up happening with Iran?
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