VA-Mason Dixon: Only Biden ahead of Trump

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

It's really hard to see how Trump can being down by 2 in Florida while he is only down by 4 in Virginia. It's not 2012 anymore.

And LOL at the fact that Trump would defeat Sanders by 6 in a state that has not voted for a republican candidate since 2009.

True, but these are seriously worrying numbers for a general regardless. Biden is our only hope.

I admit that Biden is the strongest potential democratic candidate but I really doubt that he would do so much better than Sanders, sure there are some centrist voters who could defect to Trump if democrats nominate a very liberal candidate, but let's be honest people who approve Trump will vote for him and people who don't like him will for the vast majority of them vote for the democratic candidate no matter who he is.

That's what drives me nuts when people act as though there's some massive pool of undecideds who will all swing one way or the other, guaranteeing victory for the Democrats or a landslide for Trump. 

You see it with impeachment polling, a major emphasis on Independents that both sides parade around as though it makes a big point.  BUT to be fair, even if their overall population might be small, these voters were a significant part of Trump's win in 2016.  And outside of ultra- partisanship, most observers can agree that 2020 will likely be another close race.  

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

It's really hard to see how Trump can being down by 2 in Florida while he is only down by 4 in Virginia. It's not 2012 anymore.

And LOL at the fact that Trump would defeat Sanders by 6 in a state that has not voted for a republican candidate since 2009.

True, but these are seriously worrying numbers for a general regardless. Biden is our only hope.

It's a single janky poll before we've even begun approaching the meat of the campaigns.  Deep breaths.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Looks like the good people of Virginia know the Hunter Biden stuff is total malarkey. Fantastic numbers.

It's because the general public just doesn't care.

The average American can't even locate Ukraine on a map, so it makes sense that the intricacies of either Trump's quid-quo-pro or Hunter Biden's alleged shady dealings don't really resonate with the public at large.  

We here on Atlas pay attention, of course.  But nine-to-five Joe Schmo doesn't.  Consider the Clinton impeachment.   Whether you thought he should be removed from office or not, that scandal resonated with people because it was sexy, literally and figuratively.  "The POTUS running around behind his wife's back , getting "favors", and then lying about it".  That's easy to understand and digest.  

But Hunter Biden's dealings in Ukraine? Or President Trump withholding foreign aid on the condition of an investigation into a political rival? That's not "sexy" or "scandalous" enough for the general public.  

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Of course Atlas is buying this poll Sanders losing VA by 6 is about as believable as him winning OH by 8. But whatever feeds people’s narratives, I guess.

Any poll showing Georgia voting D - "TRUTH!"
Any poll showing something that contradicts my narrative - "JUNK"

Yes, because Trump losing GA (narrowly) is believable, Trump winning VA really isn’t.

I’m a mild-mannered person, but I have ZERO tolerance for the "VA is a swing state" crowd. That said, I’m not going to let this poll raise my blood pressure on New Year's Eve.

You have all of 2020 to get that hypertension going, Indyrep!