2020 Liberal Democrats Leadership Election

[Pericles]

If they have a national strategy that's aimed at winning Sheffield Hallam and Cambridge, they're not going to do as well in their actual targets like Cheltenham and Winchester. The national party needs to be a reasonably good fit for those seats.

[EastAnglianLefty]

TBF, whilst the seats are very different, the actual core votes they get in Cambridge are the same ones they get in Cheltenham. It's just that the additional votes they need in those two seats to get over the line are very different.

[CumbrianLefty]

Davey extending his lead over Moran in endorsements, it does appear to be his to lose now.

[DaWN]

Good.

[brucejoel99]

Davey extending his lead over Moran in endorsements, it does appear to be his to lose now.

- Davey: Jardine, Olney, Wilson
- Moran: Hobhouse, Stone, Chamberlain
- Undeclared: Cooper
- Neutral: Farron, Carmichael

[CumbrianLefty]

Not just including MPs here (after all there aren't so many of them) but more generally.

EDIT: Davey 1186, Moran 890 appears to be the latest figures.

[Intell]

Davey makes sense when keir and Boris are leaders

[CumbrianLefty]

Davey makes sense when keir and Boris are leaders

Maybe, though you could argue Moran would "contrast" with those two.

(which might be a good thing, but not necessarily so)

[Zinneke]

I'm reading the "Fall Out" book of the Brexit negotiations and the 2017 election and the author said that Farron's team in his London HQ was "half gay, half Christian" (leading to the difficult situation during gaygate)...how representative is that Christian wing of the Lib Dem party membership and activists? Is there still a quite prominent Christian wing, inspired a bit by Christian Democratic parties across the EU?

[CumbrianLefty]

Latest endorsement figures are Davey 1268, Moran 923 - Sir Ed extends his lead again.

(he was actually narrowly behind after the first tranche of nominations)

[Former President tack50]

What is being counted as endorsements here? I suppose just MPs plus local government councillors? Do the Lib Dems even have 2000 local government councillors to begin with?

[CumbrianLefty]

Not so many endorsements yesterday, but Davey edges them again - now 1318 to 958.

[Blair]

I'm reading the "Fall Out" book of the Brexit negotiations and the 2017 election and the author said that Farron's team in his London HQ was "half gay, half Christian" (leading to the difficult situation during gaygate)...how representative is that Christian wing of the Lib Dem party membership and activists? Is there still a quite prominent Christian wing, inspired a bit by Christian Democratic parties across the EU?

I always assumed that there was a strong link between Methodism in the South West & the Liberal Democrats; political staffers do tend to be dispropotionately LGBT for some reason in my experience (even more so among the Tories)

[CumbrianLefty]

Rush of nominations yesterday - scores on the doors now Davey 1443, Moran 1001.

This contest now appears to be getting a bit spicy on Twitter, including threats to leave the party if the "wrong" leader is elected - Labour people will be all too familiar with these psychodramas

[DaWN]

An update to the endorsement tracker

Leadership Candidates
Ed Davey (Kingston & Surbiton)
Layla Moran (Oxford West & Abingdon)

Endorsement Tracker
Davey
Daisy Cooper (St Albans)
Christine Jardine (Edinburgh West)
Sarah Olney (Richmond Park)
Tim Farron (Westmorland & Lonsdale)
Munira Wilson (Twickenham)
Moran
Wendy Chamberlain (North East Fife)
Jamie Stone (Caithness, Sutherland & Easter Ross)
Wera Hobhouse (Bath)
Yet to Endorse
Alistair Carmichael (Orkey & Shetland) (Chief Whip so may not endorse)

[Blair]

Rush of nominations yesterday - scores on the doors now Davey 1443, Moran 1001.

This contest now appears to be getting a bit spicy on Twitter, including threats to leave the party if the "wrong" leader is elected - Labour people will be all too familiar with these psychodramas

I do wonder if we're going to see another internal election where the commited forever online activists vote en masse for Moran while the people who forget they're members until they get an email vote for Davey.

[DaWN]

I have just nominated Davey

[Kingpoleon]

I'm reading the "Fall Out" book of the Brexit negotiations and the 2017 election and the author said that Farron's team in his London HQ was "half gay, half Christian" (leading to the difficult situation during gaygate)...how representative is that Christian wing of the Lib Dem party membership and activists? Is there still a quite prominent Christian wing, inspired a bit by Christian Democratic parties across the EU?

I always assumed that there was a strong link between Methodism in the South West & the Liberal Democrats; political staffers do tend to be dispropotionately LGBT for some reason in my experience (even more so among the Tories)

Are British Methodists particularly socially conservative? I was rather under the impression that they weren’t.

[CumbrianLefty]

I have just nominated Davey

And you helped him to 1504 in the latest total, compared to 1044 for Moran.

[CumbrianLefty]

Now its 1548 to 1072. This bit of fun ends on Thursday, then on to the hustings.

[CumbrianLefty]

Moran "won" yesterday's round of nominations for the first time in ages - and very comfortably too.

Now 1578 to 1135.

[CumbrianLefty]

A quiet day yesterday and a near tie - now 1597 to 1158.

[CumbrianLefty]

Another big "win" for Moran yesterday and she is narrowing the gap - 1641 to 1225.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I'm reading the "Fall Out" book of the Brexit negotiations and the 2017 election and the author said that Farron's team in his London HQ was "half gay, half Christian" (leading to the difficult situation during gaygate)...how representative is that Christian wing of the Lib Dem party membership and activists? Is there still a quite prominent Christian wing, inspired a bit by Christian Democratic parties across the EU?

I always assumed that there was a strong link between Methodism in the South West & the Liberal Democrats; political staffers do tend to be dispropotionately LGBT for some reason in my experience (even more so among the Tories)

There was a link between West Country Methodism and Liberal (and then LibDem) voting, yes, but Farron is a Happy Clappy Evangelical Anglican.

[CumbrianLefty]

Back to a big Davey "win" yesterday - now 1702 to 1242.