How much will the new jobs report help Trump?
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Question: Well?
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It will not affect the election.
 
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It will help him a little.
 
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It will help him a lot.
 
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It will cause him to win the popular vote.
 
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It will cause him to win in a landslide.
 
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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2020, 03:34:24 PM »

Anyone thinking this is going to be some major boon to Trump is being delusional. 43 million people have gone onto unemployment. A 1% boost in the unemployment rate is not going to resonate.
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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2020, 03:38:39 PM »
« Edited: June 05, 2020, 03:53:18 PM by SN2903 »

Anyone thinking this is going to be some major boon to Trump is being delusional. 43 million people have gone onto unemployment. A 1% boost in the unemployment rate is not going to resonate.
Dude. They were expecting 20% unemployment and it went down to 13%. It's big whether you like it or not and most of the liberal posters on here have admitted it will at least some impact.
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« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2020, 06:31:17 PM »

The coronavirus didn’t move the numbers, the impeachment didn’t move the numbers, the protests didn’t move the numbers, the pre-COVID economy didn’t move the numbers. What makes you think that they’re going to move now?

Might I remind you that we still have a record number of people out of work?


Except Trump’s response to covid and the protests has moved the numbers.  His lead in the RCP average grew from about 3 points to 8 points over the past three or four weeks.
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« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2020, 06:41:37 PM »

Clearly, PPP has had some positive and short term impact to retain jobs.  No doubt about this.  The question is going to be what happens when that money runs out.
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« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2020, 06:48:45 PM »
« Edited: June 05, 2020, 07:07:18 PM by Progressive Pessimist »

Maybe a little. It gives him some new rhetoric to claim that he is capable of helping the economy recover...but that relies on people forgetting that it got f***ed up in the first place under his leadership. Granted, Americans apply such low standards to Trump, and have such short memories, that maybe it could work for him, unfortunately.

Overall though, 13% unemployment is still really bad and an eventual recovery from much less severe recessions didn't really help Carter, Ford, or HW very much. Trump is polishing a turd here and its in the midst of a pandemic which leaves over 100,000 Americans dead and significant social unrest. Americans also tend to be very subjective in how they grade an economy, and those out of work still will perceive Trump as accountable for their malaise regardless of slightly positive macro level news. That's just the way it is, for better or worse, when you're President. 13% of the American out of work is still significant, it's still a lot of frustrated people. As long as Democrats stay on the offensive against Trump here, it still might not be worth worrying about too much. They need to keep reminding voters about how Trump bungled the COVID response and how that was partly responsible for the economy tanking. Biden can also easily claim that Trump squandered the economy that he and Obama handed him which they brought back from an abyss as well.

Also, let's not underestimate Trump's ability to make yuge mistakes when he gets cocky and overconfident. Today, already, he had that distasteful gaffe with "George Floyd happily looking down" which seems to have overshadowed the report. Trump just can't help but let his impulsive tendencies get the better of him.
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« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2020, 10:38:17 PM »

Trump overplaying this today may have actually caused this to hurt him a little, when it otherwise would have helped him a little. However, a grifter has gotta grift. Problem is, unlike with real estate, in politics he can't move on to new suckers.
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