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« on: December 16, 2019, 06:17:00 PM »

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/12/15/poll-impeachment-looms-narrow-majority-opposes-convicting-trump/2657549001/

The national survey, taken as the House of Representatives planned an impeachment vote and the Senate a trial, showed Trump defeating former vice president Joe Biden by three percentage points, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders by five points, and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren by eight points.

In hypothetical head-to-head contests, Trump also led South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg by 10 points and former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg by nine.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2019, 06:29:13 PM »

If Trump truely has a 48/50 approval rating on election day, I don't doubt he wins the popular vote.
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2019, 06:32:01 PM »

Beyond awful poll for Democrats, but Trump definitely isn’t going to win the popular vote (not that he needs to).
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2019, 06:34:47 PM »
« Edited: December 16, 2019, 06:40:08 PM by PA is Lean D »

Clear outlier. Suffolk has been very friendly to Trump, bordering Rasmussen... There are also too many undecideds for me to take this one seriously.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2019, 06:35:27 PM »

Trump is gonna lose
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2019, 06:37:20 PM »

Yeah, these polls are ridiculous. Trump even leading Biden by 4 (and Biden being at 41%) is ridiculous. IDK what the hell is going on over at Suffolk this cycle.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2019, 06:37:57 PM »

Seems like this is due to high undecideds in the poll:

Trump's standing remained remarkably steady regardless of his opponent, at 45% against Warren, 44% against Biden and Sanders, and 43% against Buttigieg and Bloomberg. That could be both good news and bad for him: A sign of the solidity of his support, but also an indication that he has a ceiling.

There was more variation among the Democratic contenders when they were matched against Trump. Biden received 41%, Sanders 39%, Warren 37%, Bloomberg 34% and Buttigieg 33%.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/12/16/trump-impeachment-2020-election-leads-democratic-rivals/2663659001/

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An unnamed third-party candidate received between 11% and 15% in the head-to-head contests – a factor that could determine who wins the White House.

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2019, 06:40:00 PM »

Ugh...
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2019, 06:40:42 PM »

Seems like this is due to high undecideds in the poll:

Trump's standing remained remarkably steady regardless of his opponent, at 45% against Warren, 44% against Biden and Sanders, and 43% against Buttigieg and Bloomberg. That could be both good news and bad for him: A sign of the solidity of his support, but also an indication that he has a ceiling.

There was more variation among the Democratic contenders when they were matched against Trump. Biden received 41%, Sanders 39%, Warren 37%, Bloomberg 34% and Buttigieg 33%.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/12/16/trump-impeachment-2020-election-leads-democratic-rivals/2663659001/

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An unnamed third-party candidate received between 11% and 15% in the head-to-head contests – a factor that could determine who wins the White House.



WTF? Throw the whole thing into the incinerator.
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2019, 06:46:48 PM »

Yeah, I'm not sure what Suffolk is doing, but having an unnamed third party candidate in the double digits makes me warry of this poll as well.
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2019, 06:57:15 PM »

I think it's always been a double standard, Trump will be the first ever GOP Prez impeached; consequently,  it's always been okay to impeach: Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton whom were Dem. It's not popular to impeach a GOP prez, just like during Iran Contra, Reagan only escaped because it happened in his last 2 yrs of his term. Dubya escaped the outing of Valerie Plame due to 6 yrs of GOP control of Congress
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2019, 07:47:48 PM »

Seems like this is due to high undecideds in the poll:

Trump's standing remained remarkably steady regardless of his opponent, at 45% against Warren, 44% against Biden and Sanders, and 43% against Buttigieg and Bloomberg. That could be both good news and bad for him: A sign of the solidity of his support, but also an indication that he has a ceiling.

There was more variation among the Democratic contenders when they were matched against Trump. Biden received 41%, Sanders 39%, Warren 37%, Bloomberg 34% and Buttigieg 33%.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/12/16/trump-impeachment-2020-election-leads-democratic-rivals/2663659001/

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An unnamed third-party candidate received between 11% and 15% in the head-to-head contests – a factor that could determine who wins the White House.

Wow, trash poll!
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2019, 07:51:22 PM »

Did they poll the primary?
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2019, 07:53:49 PM »

Mystery 3rd candidate!?  What is this nonsense?

JUNK IT.
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2019, 07:54:56 PM »

Beyond awful poll for Democrats, but Trump definitely isn’t going to win the popular vote (not that he needs to).

You can't see a 2004 scenario if he gets to even approvals or even a modified 1996 with like a Trump +5 PV if he gets to significantly positive approvals?  

Now there are a couple of different reasons I think this could be his high point, but Trump +1.5ish is still very possible IMO.
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2019, 08:38:00 PM »

Mystery 3rd candidate!?  What is this nonsense?


JEB!
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2019, 10:39:30 PM »

This isnt a bad news for Dems, it's a bad poll for Biden, whom always says, he isnt the corrupted and most electable one. But, Biden is corrupted and he hasnt had to defend himself on Ukraine, because he is running a primary campaign,  not GE campaign; consequently,  if Biden doesnt lose in primary,  his protege, Coons can, he is 3 pts behind Generic opponent.
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2019, 03:11:01 AM »

Trump +10 over Butti? Junk.
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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2019, 03:21:50 AM »

Why do they poll a third party candidate when that prospect is incredibly remote now with Bloomberg running in the Democratic primary?
The only reason I can think of is clicks and retweets. Watch out tomorrow every cable blowhard somberly analyzing how Democrats blew it with impeachment based on nothing but this poll.
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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2019, 04:55:03 AM »

Biden still isnt the nominee yet and as I stated earlier, he doesnt have to defend Ukraine in a primary, but when he runs against Trump he will and won't have Superdelegates to hide behind their endorsements
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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2019, 09:25:38 AM »

Trumpslide . Hilarious how any good polls for Trump on here are immediately dismissed.
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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2019, 09:35:11 AM »

This poll has Trump getting 43% of the hispanic vote against Sanders.

Hilarious!

The article also reads like straight up Trump propaganda.
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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2019, 10:52:12 AM »

Trumpslide . Hilarious how any good polls for Trump on here are immediately dismissed.

It says 3rd Party is getting 11% of the vote, thers is no viable third party
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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2019, 10:59:21 AM »

You can't take any poll seriously with any of the Democrats below 40%. That seems like far too many undecideds.
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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2019, 11:00:54 AM »

SN is taking a poll seriously and 3rd party gets 11-15% of the vote.
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