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« Reply #400 on: September 14, 2020, 09:27:59 AM »

Unlike the tone-deaf Scheer, O'Toole seems like an astute observer of politics

Most people would compared to him tbf Wink
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« Reply #401 on: September 14, 2020, 09:41:05 AM »

Scheer is Stockwell Day-bad
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« Reply #402 on: September 14, 2020, 10:14:50 AM »

Erin O'Toole strikes me as being on the surface bland, but with a certain disarming charm.  Beyond that, he seems to be highly intelligent, and comfortable with himself, unlike the bizarre and obnoxious Justin Trudeau.

Erin O'Toole seems to be by a fair bit the Conservative Party's best asset, but his very weak bench is a big problem for me.  Pierre Polievre as Finance Minister?  Michelle Rempel Garner as Health Minister? I'd still take Prime Minister Justin Trudeau over that.
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« Reply #403 on: September 14, 2020, 10:28:10 AM »


Well, no one will be able to accuse him of not going after the NDP's working class demographic.
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« Reply #404 on: September 14, 2020, 11:01:02 AM »


Well, no one will be able to accuse him of not going after the NDP's working class demographic.

The National Post published an article on Labour Day quoting a number of conservative thinkers on how the Conservative Party should go after union members and even seek the endorsement of unions.

These thinkers pointed out that unions play an essential role in providing a counterbalance to wealthy interests and that unions can provide social stability by achieving higher pay for workers.  They also point out that unions play a major role in social society by assisting charities and other non-profits.

To the degree that modern conservatives genuinely embrace stability, I think they make some important points why Conservative Party should seek the support of unions.

In the Canadian context, the ban on corporate and union donations has reduced, though far from eliminated, the influence of corporations in Canada.  Corporate executives may be very wealthy, but they don't combine for a lot of votes.

The problem I see for the Conservatives is that the small business owners collectively seem to be more anti union than large corporate executives in Canada and there are a lot of small business owners.  The Canadian Federation of Independent Business seems to be a very powerful player in the Canadian Conservative Party.

Interestingly, in New Brunswick, one of the star Progressive Conservative candidates is one of the top trade unionists in Canada.
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« Reply #405 on: September 15, 2020, 09:09:59 AM »

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« Reply #406 on: September 15, 2020, 10:37:17 AM »



The same riding we predicted. She's a good fit for the riding (except for the fact it's less than .5% Black, which I don't think is that relevant).
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« Reply #407 on: September 15, 2020, 11:29:21 AM »



The same riding we predicted. She's a good fit for the riding (except for the fact it's less than .5% Black, which I don't think is that relevant).

Does she have any personal connection whatsoever to the riding or would she be a total "parachute" - not that voters would necessarily punish her for that
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« Reply #408 on: September 15, 2020, 01:17:44 PM »

Part of the socially conservative "Dutch belt" of SW Ontario.
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« Reply #409 on: September 15, 2020, 01:25:14 PM »

It makes total sense she would run in rural Ontario.  There are no "natural fits" in the GTA. 
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« Reply #410 on: September 15, 2020, 02:49:40 PM »

It's an unfortunate thing about FPTP. If you're a Toronto Tory, rural Alberta Liberal etc, you have to choose between running where you have a local connection and where you can actually win.

At least in Lewis' case, her leadership base should blunt the risk of a serious local challenge.
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« Reply #411 on: September 16, 2020, 12:14:26 AM »

It's an unfortunate thing about FPTP. If you're a Toronto Tory, rural Alberta Liberal etc, you have to choose between running where you have a local connection and where you can actually win.

At least in Lewis' case, her leadership base should blunt the risk of a serious local challenge.

True although Tories should have run her in 905 belt since if they cannot gain seats there, they are not forming government.  Rural Ontario is going to go Tory no matter what so while agree Scarborough-Rouge Park probably isn't winneable for Tories, a riding like Whitby which is nearby would have made more sense.  Not saying Tories will win there, but that is the type of riding they need to gain in if they wish to form government.
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