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« Reply #5350 on: July 07, 2022, 12:23:26 AM »

Boris Johnson needs to stand his ground.

The conservative party overwhelming wanted him to be their leader. Not MPs but the actually voters.

The UK wanted him to be PM in 2019 and gave him a strong majority.

There are segments of the conservative party that never liked him and never truly accepted him as leader despite the nationwide party wanting him.

All these resignations are traitors. Rishi Sunak Sajid Javid are jumping ship because they want to be PM, not morals.

This is just not how parliamentary systems work, sorry.
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« Reply #5351 on: July 07, 2022, 12:54:18 AM »

Boris Johnson needs to stand his ground.

The conservative party overwhelming wanted him to be their leader. Not MPs but the actually voters.

The UK wanted him to be PM in 2019 and gave him a strong majority.
Tell that to the Conservative voters who abandoned the Conservative party en masse in Chesham and Amersham, Shropshire North, Tiverton and Honiton, and Wakefield.
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« Reply #5352 on: July 07, 2022, 01:31:42 AM »

Boris Johnson needs to stand his ground.

The conservative party overwhelming wanted him to be their leader. Not MPs but the actually voters.

The UK wanted him to be PM in 2019 and gave him a strong majority.

There are segments of the conservative party that never liked him and never truly accepted him as leader despite the nationwide party wanting him.

All these resignations are traitors. Rishi Sunak Sajid Javid are jumping ship because they want to be PM, not morals.

A majority of conservative voters want him to resign, but you clearly don’t really understand British politics so what’s the point in arguing?

If you love Boris this much you might end up in the cabinet by the end of today.
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« Reply #5353 on: July 07, 2022, 01:34:39 AM »

I believe we now lost a senior Health Minister, the security minister and others- this is not good and there’s a very real risk he ends up having to put Lords in these jobs.

I expect if we had King Charles he would be making a phone call today.
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« Reply #5354 on: July 07, 2022, 01:35:38 AM »

It's not even 8 am yet and 4 more mps have resigned. Going to be another great and exciting day!
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« Reply #5355 on: July 07, 2022, 01:37:56 AM »

Brandon Lewis has actually resigned this time, the fourth Cabinet minister to do so.  As have junior ministers Damien Hinds and Helen Whately.
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« Reply #5356 on: July 07, 2022, 01:50:40 AM »

Who's actually still behind him at this point? Rees-Mogg? Dorries? Fabricant?
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« Reply #5357 on: July 07, 2022, 02:05:42 AM »

Now past 50 resignations with the Ministers for Science, Pensions and Silly Walks the latest to resign
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« Reply #5358 on: July 07, 2022, 02:14:55 AM »

Brandon Lewis has actually resigned this time, the fourth Cabinet minister to do so.  As have junior ministers Damien Hinds and Helen Whately.
I have never heard of him before he resigned.
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« Reply #5359 on: July 07, 2022, 02:21:49 AM »

LOL, Theresa May

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10989277/Could-Theresa-drafted-caretaker-Prime-Minister-Former-leader-step-sources-say.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK
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« Reply #5360 on: July 07, 2022, 02:28:22 AM »

Gordon Brown was seen as a monster because he spent about 72 hours after a general election (which had resulted in a hung Parliament) to see if there was any plausible Labour-led coalition available. When it became clear that there wasn't, he gracefully stood down.
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« Reply #5361 on: July 07, 2022, 02:37:08 AM »

Rumours of a statement being prepared, but Downing Street (i.e. advisors and aides) are said to be split between those who know it's over and those who want to fight on.
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« Reply #5362 on: July 07, 2022, 02:38:32 AM »

I might not come back from Italy. Just want to live in a country with a strong and stable government.
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« Reply #5363 on: July 07, 2022, 02:40:22 AM »

I might just not come back from Italy. Just want to live in a country with a strong and stable government.

Shouldn’t have voted for chaos with Ed Miliband then.


Daily Fail aside, May pulling a Kevin Rudd would be hilarious to see. Even more so if she calls another election only to lose a majority.
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« Reply #5364 on: July 07, 2022, 02:44:07 AM »

A real sign of their lack of talent if they have to bring her back, seriously the 2019 Tory intake is one of the worst. Remember when Imran Khan of all people was being hyped as an exemplary candidate.
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« Reply #5365 on: July 07, 2022, 02:49:36 AM »

Resignations that I think have yet to be mentioned:

George Freeman, Science Minister
Guy Opperman, Pensions Minister
Chris Philp, Digital Economy Minister
James Cartlidge, Courts Minister
Richard Graham, Trade Envoy to Malaysia and the Philippines
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« Reply #5366 on: July 07, 2022, 02:51:57 AM »

Zahawi has openly called on Johnson to resign.
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« Reply #5367 on: July 07, 2022, 02:55:23 AM »

Michelle Donelan has resigned and become surely the briefest Education Secretary there has ever been or ever will be.
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« Reply #5368 on: July 07, 2022, 03:01:50 AM »

Michelle Donelan has resigned and become surely the briefest Education Secretary there has ever been or ever will be.

Anarchy in the UK!
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« Reply #5369 on: July 07, 2022, 03:03:07 AM »

Michelle Donelan has resigned and become surely the briefest Education Secretary there has ever been or ever will be.

Anarchy in the UK!

Chaos with Ed Miliband.
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« Reply #5370 on: July 07, 2022, 03:03:46 AM »

Michelle Donelan has resigned and become surely the briefest Education Secretary there has ever been or ever will be.
She’s going to be one hell of a pub quiz question. 
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« Reply #5371 on: July 07, 2022, 03:05:33 AM »

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« Reply #5372 on: July 07, 2022, 03:05:34 AM »

Sky News is reporting that a resignation statement has been written for Johnson - but it isn’t clear if he’s going to sign it.
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« Reply #5373 on: July 07, 2022, 03:08:49 AM »

Ben Wallace is pulling the “please call a VONC in Johnson”, but don’t ask me to resign, because someone (me) should stay as Defence Secretary.



Quite probably the final nail in the coffin.
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« Reply #5374 on: July 07, 2022, 03:09:55 AM »

Johnson's resigned.  Caroline Johnson, that is, as Vice Chair of the Conservative Party.
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