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« Reply #5175 on: July 06, 2022, 05:34:41 AM »

Victoria Atkins, Home Office Minister, has resigned.
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« Reply #5176 on: July 06, 2022, 05:38:42 AM »

One more hurdle added to the PM’s schedule today, after PMQs, Javid’s resignation statement, and having to give evidence to the Liaison Committee - the 1922 Committee have scheduled a meeting at 5pm to vote on a VONC rule change:
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« Reply #5177 on: July 06, 2022, 05:44:06 AM »

Oh my gosh this is amazing! Hoping for a swift execution. If it looks like Boris will not just lose but be humiliated in a vote, I wonder if he'll even pre-empt it by resigning to save face, it's supposed to be against his character but he did something like that in 2016.
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« Reply #5178 on: July 06, 2022, 05:46:54 AM »

Oh my gosh this is amazing! Hoping for a swift execution. If it looks like Boris will not just lose but be humiliated in a vote, I wonder if he'll even pre-empt it by resigning to save face, it's supposed to be against his character but he did something like that in 2016.

I know the conventional wisdom is that Johnson will never resign, but this morning has been such a bloodbath that I’m starting to think he might make an announcement at PMQs. We’ll have to see though…
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« Reply #5179 on: July 06, 2022, 05:53:45 AM »

Things to watch out for at PMQs: How many Tory MPs are there and what those who are there look and sound like. 
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« Reply #5180 on: July 06, 2022, 06:11:36 AM »

One of Johnson's first lines in PMQs, said without a hint of irony: "I abhor bullying and abuse of power."
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« Reply #5181 on: July 06, 2022, 06:13:20 AM »

Michael Gove absent from PMQs.
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« Reply #5182 on: July 06, 2022, 06:14:58 AM »

Jo Churchill, Health Minister, has resigned. That's a surname that's familiar to Johnson.
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« Reply #5183 on: July 06, 2022, 06:23:02 AM »

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« Reply #5184 on: July 06, 2022, 06:24:07 AM »

Starmer's joke about the Charge of the Lightweight Brigade seems to be the highlight of the main part.
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« Reply #5185 on: July 06, 2022, 06:46:15 AM »

Sajid Javid drawing out a methodical takedown of the government, in his resignation statement.

"...enough is enough.  I believe that point is now."

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« Reply #5186 on: July 06, 2022, 06:52:19 AM »

Javid was really channeling Howe. Talking about team captains etc. The camera also focussed on Johnson in a similar way that it did on Thatcher.

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« Reply #5187 on: July 06, 2022, 06:52:58 AM »

Stuart Andrew, Housing Minister, has resigned.
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« Reply #5188 on: July 06, 2022, 07:09:53 AM »

Oh my gosh this is amazing! Hoping for a swift execution. If it looks like Boris will not just lose but be humiliated in a vote, I wonder if he'll even pre-empt it by resigning to save face, it's supposed to be against his character but he did something like that in 2016.

I know the conventional wisdom is that Johnson will never resign, but this morning has been such a bloodbath that I’m starting to think he might make an announcement at PMQs. We’ll have to see though…

No sign of that, but I'm struggling to see a way forward for him now.  The 1922 Committee look they are going to change the rules this evening to allow another confidence vote, which he will surely lose.  If he tries to stay on as PM even having lost the Tory leadership, then the new leader can just call a No Confidence motion in the Commons, and (barring forty or so Tory MPs pledging allegiance to Johnson and refusing to support the new leader as PM) the Lascelles Principles imply that the new leader should take over at that point.  He could call a General Election while Lascelles still allows, but that surely just ends in a triumphant speech from the new Labour MP for Uxbridge & South Ruislip.
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« Reply #5189 on: July 06, 2022, 07:17:02 AM »

Oh my gosh this is amazing! Hoping for a swift execution. If it looks like Boris will not just lose but be humiliated in a vote, I wonder if he'll even pre-empt it by resigning to save face, it's supposed to be against his character but he did something like that in 2016.

I know the conventional wisdom is that Johnson will never resign, but this morning has been such a bloodbath that I’m starting to think he might make an announcement at PMQs. We’ll have to see though…

No sign of that, but I'm struggling to see a way forward for him now.  The 1922 Committee look they are going to change the rules this evening to allow another confidence vote, which he will surely lose.  If he tries to stay on as PM even having lost the Tory leadership, then the new leader can just call a No Confidence motion in the Commons, and (barring forty or so Tory MPs pledging allegiance to Johnson and refusing to support the new leader as PM) the Lascelles Principles imply that the new leader should take over at that point.  He could call a General Election while Lascelles still allows, but that surely just ends in a triumphant speech from the new Labour MP for Uxbridge & South Ruislip.
Yeah - I was very wrong. Johnson is still projecting strength - reports he’s planning to stand in any confidence vote. I hope he does eventually give it up, although the 1922 having to force him out looks ever more likely.
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« Reply #5190 on: July 06, 2022, 07:35:36 AM »

Three more PPSs have resigned. David Johnston (Education), Claire Coutinho (Treasury) and Selaine Saxby (Treasury).
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« Reply #5191 on: July 06, 2022, 08:03:20 AM »

Alec Shelbrooke and Robert Jenrick (a former cabinet minister) have no confidence.
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« Reply #5192 on: July 06, 2022, 08:10:05 AM »

Chris Heaton-Harris, the Chief Whip, is said to be telling Johnson to resign.
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« Reply #5193 on: July 06, 2022, 08:23:08 AM »

Ben Spencer, MP for Runnymede and Weybridge, has no confidence.
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« Reply #5194 on: July 06, 2022, 08:28:53 AM »

David Canzini is being suggested as someone within Johnson's inner circle who might tell him to resign.
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« Reply #5195 on: July 06, 2022, 08:29:06 AM »

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« Reply #5196 on: July 06, 2022, 08:34:10 AM »

Reports that Gove has told Johnson that his position is untenable.
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« Reply #5197 on: July 06, 2022, 08:35:59 AM »

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« Reply #5198 on: July 06, 2022, 08:36:37 AM »

Reports that Gove has told Johnson that his position is untenable.

This morning, it seems, which explains his absence at PMQs.
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« Reply #5199 on: July 06, 2022, 08:37:44 AM »

My new hero.  Cheesy
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