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« Reply #5125 on: July 05, 2022, 02:56:31 PM »

Here I was thinking the big news today could be Starmer getting resigned and fined. Wow. Finally someone shows courage. It looks clear that he has lost the confidence of the parliamentary party, but the one worry is that with the one-year rule I'm not sure how exactly he can be removed immediately.
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« Reply #5126 on: July 05, 2022, 03:03:31 PM »

Virginia Crosbie (PPS, Welsh office) has also resigned.
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« Reply #5127 on: July 05, 2022, 03:05:17 PM »

For all of you excited for Boris' hopefully imminent demise, just remember that one of the first things that the new PM will do will likely be the implementation of "true conservative policies" to please the base.

Hope you're all on board with that. I can't wait for a swing to the right.

If the party are, as all leadership election polling suggests, planning to cede the centre ground, I’m not sure they’ll have long to play with the levers of power - given the current polling, and the eagerness of the opposition to capture that territory.
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« Reply #5128 on: July 05, 2022, 03:12:01 PM »

Had a routine medical procedure today for monitoring purposes, so no news for a few hours. Got back home about half an hour after ~all this~ broke. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Well, it's better than the time I had two teeth removed and then watched Grease.

(I preferred the former, BTW)

PMQs tomorrow will be very interesting.
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« Reply #5129 on: July 05, 2022, 03:22:38 PM »

Supposedly Zahawi is threatening to resign if not made Chancellor, and Boris wants Truss for that role. Hilarious if true.
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« Reply #5130 on: July 05, 2022, 03:27:04 PM »

For all of you excited for Boris' hopefully imminent demise, just remember that one of the first things that the new PM will do will likely be the implementation of "true conservative policies" to please the base.

Hope you're all on board with that. I can't wait for a swing to the right.

I'm sure there'll be a bit of that and it'll be terrible, but if they go too far it will only worsen their electoral problems
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« Reply #5131 on: July 05, 2022, 03:34:59 PM »

He's going to keep going to 2024 isn't he. Even if he has to scrape the Lords for suitable ministers. He is utterly shameless.
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« Reply #5132 on: July 05, 2022, 03:37:26 PM »

For all of you excited for Boris' hopefully imminent demise, just remember that one of the first things that the new PM will do will likely be the implementation of "true conservative policies" to please the base.

Hope you're all on board with that. I can't wait for a swing to the right.

The fact that you continue to see politics as a football match while your party expose themselves as corrupt sexual assaulters tell us all we need to know about the median Evangelical. By their own standards some of these Christians will burn in hell.
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« Reply #5133 on: July 05, 2022, 03:42:28 PM »

Zahawi is Chancellor. Suggestions that Truss may resign shortly.
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« Reply #5134 on: July 05, 2022, 03:45:00 PM »

For all of you excited for Boris' hopefully imminent demise, just remember that one of the first things that the new PM will do will likely be the implementation of "true conservative policies" to please the base.

Hope you're all on board with that. I can't wait for a swing to the right.

The fact that you continue to see politics as a football match while your party expose themselves as corrupt sexual assaulters tell us all we need to know about the median Evangelical. By their own standards some of these Christians will burn in hell.

 Huh
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« Reply #5135 on: July 05, 2022, 03:54:55 PM »

Zarqawi has done Truss like a kipper. She resigns know she looks foolish for backing Johnson just for the Chancellor gig.

Playing Liars Poker level stakes now
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« Reply #5136 on: July 05, 2022, 04:04:15 PM »

The problem is that before Thursday last week it was assumed the new 1922 committee (due next week) would change the rules to allow a challenge in the Autumn.

There is a very big risk now they will change the rules right away and get rid of him. I expect he would lose.

The Pincher affair has really made MPs realise he does not care about them one bit! This was obvious and clear for ages but still…
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« Reply #5137 on: July 05, 2022, 04:05:29 PM »

Carrie Johnson will be resigning as Prime Minister's Spouse.

Rumours that Nadine Dorries considered likely replacement.
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« Reply #5138 on: July 05, 2022, 04:28:53 PM »

Carrie Johnson will be resigning as Prime Minister's Spouse.

Rumours that Nadine Dorries considered likely replacement.

Not Liz Truss?
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« Reply #5139 on: July 05, 2022, 04:29:32 PM »

I genuinely wonder how many more resignations the government can take while holding the “tis but a scratch” line. Surely we’re close to the breaking point now?
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« Reply #5140 on: July 05, 2022, 04:31:50 PM »

My hot take is Partygate isnt what really caused this but rather what caused this was after 12 years of Tory rule, the voters were looking for any excuse to turn on the Tories. Partygate and Starmer being inoffensive enough gave that excuse and the rest is history
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« Reply #5141 on: July 05, 2022, 04:47:43 PM »

My hot take is Partygate isnt what really caused this but rather what caused this was after 12 years of Tory rule, the voters were looking for any excuse to turn on the Tories. Partygate and Starmer being inoffensive enough gave that excuse and the rest is history

I'm not sure this makes much sense. If the electorate wanted to turn on the Tories, they've had a number of opportunities before this year.
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« Reply #5142 on: July 05, 2022, 04:48:11 PM »

My hot take is Partygate isnt what really caused this but rather what caused this was after 12 years of Tory rule, the voters were looking for any excuse to turn on the Tories. Partygate and Starmer being inoffensive enough gave that excuse and the rest is history

I'm not sure this makes much sense. If the electorate wanted to turn on the Tories, they've had a number of opportunities before this year.

Yes but Corbyn was not inoffensive
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« Reply #5143 on: July 05, 2022, 04:50:45 PM »

I genuinely wonder how many more resignations the government can take while holding the “tis but a scratch” line. Surely we’re close to the breaking point now?


Well, apart from Sunak and Javid they're all pretty small fry aren't they.
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« Reply #5144 on: July 05, 2022, 04:53:41 PM »

Alex Chalk resigns as Solicitor General.
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« Reply #5145 on: July 05, 2022, 04:57:28 PM »
« Edited: July 05, 2022, 06:24:02 PM by CumbrianLefty »

My hot take is Partygate isnt what really caused this but rather what caused this was after 12 years of Tory rule, the voters were looking for any excuse to turn on the Tories. Partygate and Starmer being inoffensive enough gave that excuse and the rest is history

I'm not sure this makes much sense. If the electorate wanted to turn on the Tories, they've had a number of opportunities before this year.

Indeed - 2021 was a year of great electoral success for them until the autumn.

Maybe the electorate have *finally* turned on the Tories *now* (we can but hope) but they've proved malleable by the right wing's (and captive media's) ever changing cynicism for a pretty long time.
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« Reply #5146 on: July 05, 2022, 05:02:40 PM »

Alex Chalk resigns as Solicitor General.
That’s a bigger deal than the last few resignations. No.2 in the Attorney General’s office, and a minister in various roles through the length of Johnson’s tenure.

Notably, Chalk was the name that always came up when a cabinet-level resignation was rumoured during the partygate chaos in January. His letter (linked in the tweet URL below), makes a clear reference to the cumulative effect of the scandals, so it does seem like this one was a while in the making.

Also worth noting he’s sitting on a razor-thin majority in Cheltenham - 981 votes.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexChalkChelt/status/1544437737771655169
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« Reply #5147 on: July 05, 2022, 05:41:50 PM »

Carrie Johnson will be resigning as Prime Minister's Spouse.

Rumours that Nadine Dorries considered likely replacement.

Methinks Dominic Raab’s a more likely candidate.
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« Reply #5148 on: July 05, 2022, 05:59:42 PM »

Maybe the electorate have *finally* turned on the Tories *now* (we can but hope) but they've proved malleable by the right wing's (and captive media's) ever changing cynicism for a pretty long time.

Consider the old Italian First Republic and its eventual collapse. One minute everything is fine and dandy and you're carving up government posts between each other and extorting bribes up and down the land and everyone knows and you all still keep winning, and the next people are pelting you with coins in the street.
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« Reply #5149 on: July 05, 2022, 06:53:55 PM »

Boris briefing that they’re going for deficit financed tax cuts now Rishi’s gone.
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