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« Reply #5075 on: July 05, 2022, 05:32:45 AM »

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« Reply #5076 on: July 05, 2022, 07:06:15 AM »

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« Reply #5077 on: July 05, 2022, 07:13:24 AM »

Michael Ellis making an almighty idiot of himself in the HoC has become one of the great traditions of this government.
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« Reply #5078 on: July 05, 2022, 09:21:36 AM »



I don't see anything happening before Johnson buys himself some more time with the summer recess.  Though that even he is running out of road now, is pretty indisputable.
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« Reply #5079 on: July 05, 2022, 09:29:06 AM »

Michael Ellis making an almighty idiot of himself in the HoC has become one of the great traditions of this government.

Nominative determinism?

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« Reply #5080 on: July 05, 2022, 12:04:27 PM »

JAVID HAS RESIGNED
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« Reply #5081 on: July 05, 2022, 12:07:20 PM »

Is it finally the Ides of March?
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« Reply #5082 on: July 05, 2022, 12:14:24 PM »

Rishi Sunak has resigned - saying that he recognises this might be his final ministerial post, but that he cannot continue under Johnson’s leadership.

Huge moment.
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« Reply #5083 on: July 05, 2022, 12:16:04 PM »

Losing your Health Secretary and Chancellor in the same day? Wow.
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« Reply #5084 on: July 05, 2022, 12:20:43 PM »

Cabinet finally had enough? I mean ordinarily you'd say this is unsurvivable but no doubt Johnson will still try to stick it out.
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« Reply #5085 on: July 05, 2022, 12:21:57 PM »

Losing your Health Secretary and Chancellor in the same day? Wow.
Why stop there.

Why not your Defence Minister too.
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« Reply #5086 on: July 05, 2022, 12:23:33 PM »

Tory MPs would be foolish not to take another look at Sunak as Johnson's successor.
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« Reply #5087 on: July 05, 2022, 12:23:48 PM »

Sunak replaced Javid as Chancellor, brought in as a Johnson loyalist. Quite symbolic.
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« Reply #5088 on: July 05, 2022, 12:27:18 PM »

Sunak replaced Javid as Chancellor, brought in as a Johnson loyalist. Quite symbolic.
Aye - the old hand and the understudy who supplanted him. There’s a part of me that wonders if they won’t be running on a unity ticket by the end of the week.
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« Reply #5089 on: July 05, 2022, 12:28:08 PM »

I wonder who'll be brought into replace Sunak and Javid in the Flensburg Government... if it even comes to that.
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« Reply #5090 on: July 05, 2022, 12:30:42 PM »

Historically this is a very significant double loss. Should be the end of the PM immediately in any other period of British politics.
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« Reply #5091 on: July 05, 2022, 12:32:28 PM »

Fleet Street is now doing the ring around to see who in the cabinet will vouch for Johnson and commit to staying in government.

Those who have voiced their loyalty so far are Patel, Raab and Kwartang.

I understand Raab and Patel, who are almost certainly gone once Johnson goes. But Kwartang might have a future. Odd to nail your colours to the mast of a sinking ship.
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« Reply #5092 on: July 05, 2022, 12:34:25 PM »

Fleet Street is now doing the ring around to see who in the cabinet will vouch for Johnson and commit to staying in government.

Those who have voiced their loyalty so far are Patel, Raab and Kwartang.

I understand Raab and Patel, who are almost certainly gone once Johnson goes. But Kwartang might have a future. Odd to nail your colours to the mast of a sinking ship.

Truss is "100% loyal" as well.
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« Reply #5093 on: July 05, 2022, 12:35:02 PM »

We stan watching a government collapse in real time.
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« Reply #5094 on: July 05, 2022, 12:39:56 PM »

Fleet Street is now doing the ring around to see who in the cabinet will vouch for Johnson and commit to staying in government.

Those who have voiced their loyalty so far are Patel, Raab and Kwartang.

I understand Raab and Patel, who are almost certainly gone once Johnson goes. But Kwartang might have a future. Odd to nail your colours to the mast of a sinking ship.

Truss is "100% loyal" as well.

That tracks - she’s always been discussed as a “continuity candidate” for Johnson, so seems likely that she’ll try and hold on. The situation is now fluid enough that she could be *sigh* chancellor by the end of the day.
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« Reply #5095 on: July 05, 2022, 12:42:03 PM »

Taking all bets: does Boris survive this latest Broadside? Does the government survive or need to be fully reconstituted in some fashion?
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« Reply #5096 on: July 05, 2022, 12:42:22 PM »
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Braverman, Trevelyn, Wallace, Dorries, Rees-Mogg, Jack still loyal. (All but Wallace will be exiled to the backbenches when the PM goes, so no great surprise).

Nadhim Zahawi, Therese Coffey, Michael Gove, George Eustace and the ministers for Wales and NI are the last holdouts.
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« Reply #5097 on: July 05, 2022, 12:44:36 PM »

Taking all bets: does Boris survive this latest Broadside? Does the government survive or need to be fully reconstituted in some fashion?

Boris surviving is always a safe bet, unfortunately. This would have doomed any other government.
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« Reply #5098 on: July 05, 2022, 12:44:53 PM »



Popcorn sure is tasty today
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« Reply #5099 on: July 05, 2022, 12:45:45 PM »

Taking all bets: does Boris survive this latest Broadside? Does the government survive or need to be fully reconstituted in some fashion?

Well, we've been here before umpteen times over the last eight months - the 'unsurvivable moment' for Johnson suddenly becomes very survivable indeed.

On the other hand, he was already teetering on the edge thanks to the confidence vote and the by-election losses - I can't see how a batch of ministerial resignations doesn't put the numbers of those Tory MPs who want him gone over 50%. My guess is that he ploughs on into the next week, but that an anti-Johnson majority is elected to the 1922 Committee, paving the way for another confidence vote that he will surely lose.
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