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« Reply #3850 on: February 03, 2022, 01:23:50 PM »

A good day to remind ourselves of...

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« Reply #3851 on: February 03, 2022, 01:34:39 PM »

There's a similarly deathless Twitter take even more recent than that (the "Gunnersaurus" one)
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« Reply #3852 on: February 03, 2022, 01:37:45 PM »

Being 'pro-LGBT' is just a vibe or policy stance now?
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« Reply #3853 on: February 03, 2022, 01:47:29 PM »

Wo ist Fegelein?
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« Reply #3854 on: February 03, 2022, 02:38:57 PM »

Can I pause this discussion about Johnson's recreation of the fall of Rome to bring you a ridiculous local government story?

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FMQs: Nicola Sturgeon defends proposal to chop bottom off school doors for ventilation
SNP ministers plan to spend £300,000 chopping the bottoms off hundreds of classroom doors to try to stop the spread of Covid in schools.

Shirley Anne-Somerville, the Scottish Education Secretary, wrote to MSPs informing them that around 2,000 doors could be “undercut to increase airflow”.

In a letter to Holyrood’s education committee, she said between two and four per cent of rooms across Scotland’s schools and nurseries had been identified as having “problematic” carbon dioxide levels because of inadequate ventilation.

She said this was the equivalent of around 2,000 classrooms and £5 million would now be spent trying to improve their airflow using filtration units, extraction fans and by chopping off the bottoms of doors.

Each door is expected to cost around £150 to rectify, she said, resulting in a total cost to the public purse of around £300,000.

The implications for fire safety (which relies on closing doors to prevent airflow and slowing the O2 supply) alone are wild. I think we invented windows for this very purpose. Obviously the addition of air filtration systems is welcome, but it's embarrassing that the rest of this proposal got this far.
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« Reply #3855 on: February 03, 2022, 02:42:49 PM »

And back to the fall of Rome...



Either this is the most comprehensive "cleaning house" move ever, or the entirety of Johnson's senior staff basically just gave up this evening. Wild either way.
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« Reply #3856 on: February 03, 2022, 03:09:21 PM »

And suddenly Boris Johnson has run out of people to have those Downing Street parties with. Poor fellow.
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« Reply #3857 on: February 03, 2022, 03:57:12 PM »

It is funny how short Westminsters memory is but this is actually the second clear out of Downing Street. The first one happened in November 2020 when a whole host of people were sacked and replaced.

It followed with about 3-4 months of better management before even worse results.

Who will they blame after May when the new host quits?

It will also be harder to recruit people- the first wave was a clear out of people who were not popular and was seen as outsiders- Boris is trying to recruit to a number 10 on its last legs and which has a very public track record of publicly blaming staff for any problems.
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« Reply #3858 on: February 03, 2022, 04:09:59 PM »

What I love is that this sort of brown nosing thas gone on for decades in Westminster among new MPs but it’s quite nice to see it now having to play out in public.

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« Reply #3859 on: February 03, 2022, 08:34:46 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/feb/03/bank-of-england-raises-interest-rates-to-05

Interesting that despite the current situation UK is opting for going ahead with not one but two tax increases (NI and Corporation tax) and is raising interest rates a second time. It seems that in the rest of Europe this sort of strategy is seen as economic suicidal, many countries are actually cutting taxes further eg. France, Italy, or at least freezing them at current level eg. Germany and the idea of raising Interest rates seems to be dismissed out of hand as ineffective and even totally counterproductive, because inflationary pressures are linked to supply issues.

It seems that UK strategy is more of a return to Thatcher first term (1979-1983) monetarism. Is going to involve a lot more short term pain for yozu, but long term makes perhaps a lot of sense actually when you consider the constant carousel European electoral cycles, whereas the British only has to take place in January 2025 (once FTPA repeal is passed).
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« Reply #3860 on: February 04, 2022, 03:12:28 AM »

Another resignation - Elena Narozanski of the Policy Unit. That makes it five in about eighteen hours.
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« Reply #3861 on: February 04, 2022, 06:01:21 AM »

In addition to the above - reporting from the Telegraph says that Tory whips are being briefed to prepare for ministerial resignations.

Currently three are thought to be wavering. The only public name is Alex Chalk - the Solicitor General. 
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« Reply #3862 on: February 04, 2022, 06:28:43 AM »

What I love is that this sort of brown nosing thas gone on for decades in Westminster among new MPs but it’s quite nice to see it now having to play out in public.



Almost makes me nostalgic for the early Blair years and their fabled "pagers".
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« Reply #3863 on: February 04, 2022, 10:55:08 AM »



It gets worse

Absolute government capture of the human rights body.
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« Reply #3864 on: February 04, 2022, 01:10:05 PM »

To the suprise of nobody it seems like "Operation Save Big Dog" which was supposed to be Boris throwing his underlings overboard to save himself has not exactly been a spectacular succses
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« Reply #3865 on: February 04, 2022, 04:30:42 PM »

To the suprise of nobody it seems like "Operation Save Big Dog" which was supposed to be Boris throwing his underlings overboard to save himself has not exactly been a spectacular succses

It’s become a very obvious attempt to show and remind everyone how good Pincher and Shapps are- the best political operations imo don’t need to brief newspapers about their skills all the time.
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« Reply #3866 on: February 04, 2022, 07:45:47 PM »

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« Reply #3867 on: February 04, 2022, 07:48:55 PM »

At this point, Boris Johnson should be sacked not for the parties but because he is clearly too stupid to be Prime Minister.
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« Reply #3868 on: February 05, 2022, 07:43:23 AM »

Looks like Dishy Rishi is implicated in this one, too. Its not been a great few days for him.
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« Reply #3869 on: February 05, 2022, 11:15:23 AM »

At this point, Boris Johnson should be sacked not for the parties but because he is clearly too stupid to be Prime Minister.

The fundamental problem is that his successive failures and sackings in life (from the Times for inventing quotes, from the Spectator as editor, from his second term as Mayor, his 2016 leadership bid & his awful stint as Foreign Sec) have never resulted in anything more than a very temporary hiatus.

It is part of the reason, despite his electoral liability, I want him to be removed from office quite quickly.
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« Reply #3870 on: February 05, 2022, 11:56:08 AM »

An unrelated question but why does Stanley Baldwin seem so forgotten in British history?

I've just been reading about him recently and it's remarkable how little there is written about someone who lead their party for what nearly 15 years?
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« Reply #3871 on: February 05, 2022, 01:51:30 PM »

An unrelated question but why does Stanley Baldwin seem so forgotten in British history?

Conservatives don't like to remember him because he's an embarrassment: despite being objectively one of the most electorally successful politicians in British democratic history, his governments will be forever associated with a series of gigantic policy failures on almost all possible fronts. And this is doubly problematic because while Chamberlain serves as a useful punching bag to contrast with Churchill, it happens that one of the worst domestic policy failures that Baldwin presided over - the disastrous return to the Gold Standard in 1925 - was one that Churchill, as Chancellor of the Exchequer at the time, was implemented in as well. Which means it is more convenient to let him fade into the background.

Meanwhile, he's not a crucial figure in Labour memorialisation of the period because The Tragedie of MacbethDonald dominates all narratives about its general politics and because while the General Strike and the Jarrow Crusade loom large over the wider picture (and you'd think Baldwin would be a perfect villain here, and indeed he is), the emphasis on their memorialisation has always been on the heroism of those involved - a perspective issue, essentially.
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« Reply #3872 on: February 05, 2022, 01:58:39 PM »

A very early example in Labour Party history of it beating itself up rather than the Tories.
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« Reply #3873 on: February 05, 2022, 06:30:03 PM »

Looks like Dishy Rishi is implicated in this one, too. Its not been a great few days for him.

I see Sunaks fate as becoming one of those "prime ministers we never had" as opposed to prime minister.
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« Reply #3874 on: February 05, 2022, 06:59:40 PM »

Looks like Dishy Rishi is implicated in this one, too. Its not been a great few days for him.

I see Sunaks fate as becoming one of those "prime ministers we never had" as opposed to prime minister.

Vastly less interesting than Portillo, Heseltine, Butler, Benn, Bevan, Bevin, Mosley, Powell, Corbyn, Clarke, Healey...
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