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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2019, 08:33:24 PM »

Since people joke a parliamentary majority defacto makes you a king , what about this title:            King Boris I.
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« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2019, 08:46:02 PM »

Or "The Right Honourable Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, Populist Hero"?
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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2019, 08:54:55 PM »

Is Yvette Cooper really that likely to succeed Corbyn? It seems like she would be a staunch turn away from Corbyn, and someone reasonable like her might make me prefer a Labour-Lib Dem coalition.
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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2019, 09:16:04 PM »

I’ll create a poll in a few hours and we can decide from there
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« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2019, 09:07:42 AM »
« Edited: December 16, 2019, 09:12:14 AM by CumbrianLeftie »

Is Yvette Cooper really that likely to succeed Corbyn? It seems like she would be a staunch turn away from Corbyn, and someone reasonable like her might make me prefer a Labour-Lib Dem coalition.

No, and I genuinely have no idea why people keep hyping her up.

In truth a deeply mediocre career politician* who has rarely if ever said or done anything remotely memorable, and when she had a chance to prove that assessment wrong (after Labour's 2015 defeat) ran just about the most cack handed and insultingly substance free campaign possible (hell, even Liz "4.5%" Kendall actually made some attempt to engage with issues and offer something meaningful, even if it wasn't what the party needed or wanted - she is a nicer person too) And now has a marginal seat too, so that will put off some for merely pragmatic reasons.

(*something that should be mentioned in this context far more than it actually is, is her almost total failure to lay even a single glove on a certain T May when she was shadow Home Secretary)


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« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2019, 10:36:14 AM »

Could be Orbanism. Could be a sop to the ERG that Johnson will ignore. We'll see what legislation actually gets proposed in the Queen's Speech.

My guess is it's somewhere in between, like (barf) introducing US-style partisan appointment of Supreme Court justices but leaving the constitutional system otherwise the way it is.

FWIW I'm not an expert at all but I really can't see this happen. The most likely route is tightening  the use of Judical Review (used by campaign groups & now by MPs to piss on the Governments plans) but I can't see the court structure changing.

Firstly a Parliamentary majority gives you whatever you want; the Supreme Court would struggle to block something like prorogation again if a majority of MPs voted for it- besides the hissy fit about the Supreme Court was really just among the swivel eyed lot, and now that this has happened I feel there's much easier fish to fry.

Besides the legal profession in the UK is cliquey enough that this is the type of move that could lose a Parliamentary vote; the Blair Government got itself into a proper fit over it & I feel Tory MPs are much more comfortable attacking and outlawing Channel 4 than the Judges they need to be a reference for their kids oxbridge application.

Secondly our judges don't really have the same papertrail as US judges- like if you've just spend your time doing family court, or something similar what does that tell you about how they'd rule on a case about the powers of the DWP or something similar; all the current judges are a degree of different views but all ruled against Boris.
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« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2019, 01:35:29 PM »

The "mini-reshuffle" is being conducted, Simon Hart becomes Welsh Secretary and Nicky Morgan remains Culture Secretary, but from the Lords. Presumably all that's left is finding a replacement for Goldsmith, unless Boris is really going to sack people now and not on February.
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« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2019, 02:20:35 PM »

How about “BoJo does Brexit” for a title.
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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2019, 02:56:02 PM »

For the Liberal Democrats, who will likely run to succeed Swinson? Daisy Cooper? Munira Wilson?
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« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2019, 03:10:19 PM »

For the Liberal Democrats, who will likely run to succeed Swinson? Daisy Cooper? Munira Wilson?

I would say the likeliest candidates are Daisy Cooper, Layla Moran and Sarah Olney. I wonder if there wouldn't be a Scottish candidate also considering a significant portion of the caucus is from Scotland still, but none of the Scottish MPs seem especially likely.

Wera Hobhouse also has leadership potential, but I think she expressly disclaimed interest last time around.
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« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2019, 03:47:05 PM »

For the Liberal Democrats, who will likely run to succeed Swinson? Daisy Cooper? Munira Wilson?

The 3 names floating about are Moran, Davey, & Cooper.

Davey is currently co-Acting Leader by virtue of having veen made Deputy Leader after Swinson beat him in the last election, but I'm fairly sure he still won't win it; the Coalition was a major stumbling block last election & everybody's aware that Davey will just continue those problems.

Cooper is a wildcard.

All signs tend to point toward Moran, & she seems like the likeliest choice: she has a solid constituency & comes across well on TV, but I don't know if she's leadership material, & that story about her slapping her boyfriend will resurface (though I think it'll affect opinion much less than some think & would instead just be trumpeted about by people who were never gonna vote Lib Dem anyway).

FWIW, my bet would've been Andrew George to lead the Lib Dems had he managed to regain his old seat, but rather than doing so, he fell behind by quite the margin.
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« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2019, 05:20:16 PM »

Any Scotland independence polls coming out soon?
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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2019, 04:07:36 PM »

Or "The Right Honourable Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, Populist Hero"?

Can you make that name smaller as it’s not fitting on the subject line
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« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2019, 04:27:48 PM »

Or "The Right Honourable Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, Populist Hero"?

Can you make that name smaller as it’s not fitting on the subject line

For starters it's abbreviated The Rt. Hon.
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« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2019, 05:54:42 PM »

Or "The Right Honourable Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, Populist Hero"?

Can you make that name smaller as it’s not fitting on the subject line

For starters it's abbreviated The Rt. Hon.

Ok let me try that
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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2019, 05:59:15 PM »

How does the subject line look like now
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« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2019, 06:51:07 AM »


Excellent!
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« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2019, 08:39:11 AM »

Gets popcorn...

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« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2019, 08:43:49 AM »

Or "The Right Honourable Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, Populist Hero"?

Can you make that name smaller as it’s not fitting on the subject line
Seeing as he wants to avoid scrutiny from the media, I propose we shorten it to Rt. Hon. Tub of Lard MP.

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« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2019, 06:04:09 PM »

Corbyn looked miserable today.
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« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2019, 07:20:22 PM »

I mean, is that surprising?
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« Reply #46 on: December 20, 2019, 09:28:52 AM »

Johnson's first post-landslide approvals have him ten points under water. Sobering, embarrassing, even, for Labour. But also...
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« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2019, 03:17:17 PM »

As expected, the Withdrawal Agreement passes second reading at the House of Commons, and with a 124 majority (358 to 234). Six Labour MP's defied the whip and supported the deal, and about 30 Labour MP's (including Lavery and Trickett in the Shadow Cabinet) either abstained or didn't show up.

Parliament goes into recess until January 7th.
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« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2019, 03:33:49 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2019, 03:46:49 PM »


We don't deserve McDonnell's sense of humor lmao
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