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Junior Chimp
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« on: December 18, 2019, 09:51:14 PM »

Staten Island is surprisingly rural in parts.  I was there once and saw literal farmlands right near a subway.  This was a while ago, not sure if it's a lot more developed now. 
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2019, 10:37:07 PM »

Staten Island is surprisingly rural in parts.  I was there once and saw literal farmlands right near a subway.  This was a while ago, not sure if it's a lot more developed now.  

The NYC Subway doesn't go to Staten Island. They do have the Staten Island Railway, which I assume is what you're talking about. Perhaps things get a bit less dense out by Tottenville, but I think it's still pretty suburban.

I'd be very surprised if there were any farms on Staten Island nowadays. In the 80s, sure. Back then there were still some farms in the inner NJ suburbs, too, that just hadn't sold to developers over the past few decades. Don't see any on satellite maps, either. There's a lot of marshy undeveloped land along the South Shore, though, and some SIR stops are in pretty remote spots that don't have a lot of development around them (thinking of Richmond Valley in particular). Most of it is undeveloped because it's a major flood risk (emphasized and exacerbated by Hurricane Sandy), though, not for any other reason.

There was a farm, I saw it with my own eyes.  This was in the late 90's though.  And yes it was the railway that looks just like a subway, or did then at least.
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2019, 10:48:02 PM »

I'm Italian American & I'm from Staten Island.
Most Italian Americans are hardworking people who culturally very conservative & they support gun rights,low Taxes & law & order policies.
In the election of 1960 JFK won the catholic (78-22). But he lost in staten island. Which was mostly catholic at that time.

Implying other people are not?

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Staten Island is surprisingly rural in parts.  I was there once and saw literal farmlands right near a subway.  This was a while ago, not sure if it's a lot more developed now. 

Silly answer. You can find farms in many metro areas (Sydney has many), and looking at Google Earth and population data its quite obvious that Staten is hardly rural anywhere (though there are sizable parklands). Also, this doesn't really answer the question as to why this part of Staten Island is so Republican given you don't see this level of Republicanism, even in rural areas, until to get to Central PA.


This looks pretty rural/isolated to me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnyside,_Staten_Island#/media/File:Clove_Lakes_Sunset.JPG

Consistent with the farming/sparsely populated areas I saw with my own eyes.  But if someone from Australia saw from that it's urban from google maps, well there's no disputing that.  And yes, sparsely populated areas tend to be more Republican so it does answer the question, your analogizing to Sydney notwithstanding.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2019, 06:11:08 PM »

I'm Italian American & I'm from Staten Island.
Most Italian Americans are hardworking people who culturally very conservative & they support gun rights,low Taxes & law & order policies.
In the election of 1960 JFK won the catholic (78-22). But he lost in staten island. Which was mostly catholic at that time.

Implying other people are not?

Oh boo hoo you didn't get your participation trophy.

Staten Island is surprisingly rural in parts.  I was there once and saw literal farmlands right near a subway.  This was a while ago, not sure if it's a lot more developed now. 

Silly answer. You can find farms in many metro areas (Sydney has many), and looking at Google Earth and population data its quite obvious that Staten is hardly rural anywhere (though there are sizable parklands). Also, this doesn't really answer the question as to why this part of Staten Island is so Republican given you don't see this level of Republicanism, even in rural areas, until to get to Central PA.


This looks pretty rural/isolated to me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnyside,_Staten_Island#/media/File:Clove_Lakes_Sunset.JPG

Consistent with the farming/sparsely populated areas I saw with my own eyes.  But if someone from Australia saw from that it's urban from google maps, well there's no disputing that.  And yes, sparsely populated areas tend to be more Republican so it does answer the question, your analogizing to Sydney notwithstanding.

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You linked me an image of a park completely surrounded by suburbia... which is a) by any serious definition not rural at all b) a trait which is far from unique to Staten Island and c) isn't even located in the Southern portion of the borough mentioned by lfromnj. Your argument that the reason why southern Staten Island is one of the most Republican areas east of Appalachia is because it has a few sizable parks is ridiculous and is pretty much nullified by the location you linked from the significantly less Republican northern areas of the Borough.

a) stop gaslighting, b) I never said it is "one of the most republican areas east of Appalachia."  That was in OP's post but I simply pointed out that it is surprisingly rural.  Obviously it is not as rural as Appalachia, anyone with a brain would recognize that my point was that it is surprisingly rural IN THE CONTEXT OF BEING PART OF THE LARGEST CITY IN THE United States, c) I did not limit my argument to a "few sizable parks" - I previously noted that there are literal farmlands in Staten Island and I just quickly googled an image that shows that there is clearly lots of open space as compared to the rest of NYC.  I'm fairly certain you've never even stepped foot in Staten Island before.
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