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« on: December 04, 2019, 02:34:15 PM »

How well would Emmanuel Macron fare in a primary and a general election if he ran for president? His biography largely unchanged, and let's say he's been Commerce or Treasury Secretary in Obama's second term. It's fair to say he would be a registered Democrat and belong to the centrist wing.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2019, 04:12:30 PM »

I feel like he would be seen as a charismatic Julian Castro or a (slightly more) experienced Pete Buttigieg. Depending on how he campaigns, he would probably get ~10-15% in a primary, but could probably win an election over Trump easily.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2019, 04:50:47 PM »

He would be obviously a centrist, pro free market democrat ; some democrats who remind me of Macron are Kurt Schrader, Josh Gottheimer or Mike Bloomberg

From a electoral perspective his path would be more limited as he is clearly to the right of the democratic electorate, he would have some problems to seduce minorities and progressive democrats and his floor in a presidential primary would be around 15%.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2019, 07:01:58 PM »

Yeah, he's basically Buttigieg.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2020, 10:25:42 AM »

Beto would be the best Macron analogue, IMHO
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2020, 10:39:59 AM »

As Dem nominee, he'd be a horrible fit for the Rust Belt. Election would be a pure tossup and Trump would win the EC unless Macron flips Sun Belt battlegrounds.
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2020, 03:45:58 AM »

He'd be Pete but better known and with more party establishment backing, which is to say he'd be the nominee. And then he'd win.
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2020, 11:02:18 AM »

He'd be Pete but better known and with more party establishment backing, which is to say he'd be the nominee. And then he'd win.

I think you're seriously overestimate the electoral appeal of Macron/Buttigieg-style candidates.

Macron becoming President should be attributed to an incredible series of luck rather than strength. With the collapse of PS (due to Hollande's unpopularity, internal division and Mélenchon undermining it from the far left), and division within the mainstream right, he lucked out to emerge first among a divided field and, once confronted with Marine in the runoff, he was basically guaranteed to win by default.

Now, as of Buttigieg, even if he was better known, had more establishment backing and experience, that doesn't change much. The voters don't really care about "experience", and as of the establishment backing, it might've helped in the Democratic primary, but was proved essentially irrelevant in the general election.

In general, Macron/Buttigieg-type candidates come across as arrogant and out-of-touch latte liberals, which you may find appealing, but this isn't something voters in general share with you. While someone like Biden has a common touch, and Sanders could capitalize on the "anti-establishment" hype, making them strong contenders in GE, someone like Macron of Buttigieg would be quite vulnerable against Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2020, 11:59:42 AM »

Beto would be the best Macron analogue, IMHO
Nah, Beto is more Trudeau than anything.  Pete is more Macron.
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2020, 10:18:43 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2020, 05:18:30 PM »

Macron makes Biden look like Bernie Sanders. He couldn’t win a primary.
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