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Paul Weller
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« on: December 02, 2019, 09:38:01 PM »
« edited: September 09, 2020, 11:03:16 AM by HenryWallaceVP »

So, I was reading through this old thread (which incidentally is well worth a read), and, me being me, I couldn't help but notice some historical parallels between the Iran-Saudi debate and discussions about France vs. Austria in the Dutch Republic of the 1680s. I know people have made threads like this before, so I decided to try one out by making a parody of this Parrotguy post. I should note that just because I'm parodying him that doesn't mean I disagree; in fact I think he makes some quite good points, and furthermore Popinjayguy would prove to be vindicated within a couple months of making this post once Louis XIV had revoked the Edict of Nantes.

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Why do Orangists love Popery and the House of Austria so much?
« on: August 18, 1685, 11:37:32 pm »
Well, for Stadtholder William it's not really loving the House of Austria. I rarely defend him, but on this issue he's right- the Netherlands has been one of the few nations willing to point out the Austrian hypocrisity in the past, but when all the rest of the countries around you are ruled by murderous papists who use you as their scapegoat for everything (France, England etc) and want to destroy you, do you really blame William for trying regional cooperation with anyone who's willing, no matter how repugnant their regime? I mean, France called for erasing the Netherlands off the map and James II refuses to listen and made it a habit to bash the Dutch whenever he's in trouble, so do you want William to burn himself with the third important regional power, logic and survival instinct be damned?

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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2019, 10:11:58 PM »

There would be predictions Mondale or McGovern would win 1984 and 1972 for one.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2019, 10:20:16 PM »

There would be predictions Mondale or McGovern would win 1984 and 1972 for one.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2019, 10:44:28 PM »

In 1928 and 1988, users would be saying that the Democrats are dying. In 1992, the Republicans would be saying that Bill Clinton doesn't have a chance of winning because of the Republican Wall.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2019, 10:51:34 PM »

In 1420 every1 would be high lmao and just post about how monarchy sucks major dick and how they hope they don't get the plague
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2019, 11:08:50 PM »

In 1420 every1 would be high lmao and just post about how monarchy sucks major dick and how they hope they don't get the plague

That might be the best Hillgoose post in history I laughed for like two minutes straight
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2019, 11:20:52 PM »
« Edited: December 02, 2019, 11:25:23 PM by HenryWallaceVP »

In 1420 every1 would be high lmao and just post about how monarchy sucks major dick and how they hope they don't get the plague

One time you made a joke thread in the Individual Politics board about the 1695 English general election, and I was actually just now thinking about how, big powdered wigs aside, you'd be a perfect fit for the Whigs of that era. They were, to oversimplify things, much more socially liberal than the Tories, as they generally favored greater religious tolerance (except for Catholics). The Whigs were also in favor of checking the power of the King and delegating more to Parliament, while the Tories were far more royalist and often believed in the divine right of kings to rule. Additionally, the Whigs on foreign policy were also very interventionist and always wanted to go fight France in Europe, supposedly for the liberty and freedom of the continent, while the Tories were quite isolationist and preferred to keep the troops home in England.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2019, 11:30:48 PM »

I believe the correct title is "What if Atlas Foram Modarn in the Past?"


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I mean, France called for erasing the Netherlands off the map

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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2019, 11:56:20 PM »
« Edited: December 03, 2019, 12:00:35 AM by Old School Republican »

In 1928 and 1988, users would be saying that the Democrats are dying. In 1992, the Republicans would be saying that Bill Clinton doesn't have a chance of winning because of the Republican Wall.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=224277.0

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=242392.0

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=253118.0

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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2019, 02:45:05 PM »


I think I'm confused here.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2019, 06:40:35 PM »

Also, there would be a bunch of FDR apologists explaining why Japanese/German/Italian internment was necessary.
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2019, 08:54:50 PM »

Debates about whether or not Humphrey 1968-Nixon 1972 voters are racist, uneducated, rural or suburban, “hicks”. Similar debates about voters who were swayed by the Willie Horton ad.
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2019, 09:11:36 PM »

In 1420 every1 would be high lmao and just post about how monarchy sucks major dick and how they hope they don't get the plague

One time you made a joke thread in the Individual Politics board about the 1695 English general election, and I was actually just now thinking about how, big powdered wigs aside, you'd be a perfect fit for the Whigs of that era. They were, to oversimplify things, much more socially liberal than the Tories, as they generally favored greater religious tolerance (except for Catholics). The Whigs were also in favor of checking the power of the King and delegating more to Parliament, while the Tories were far more royalist and often believed in the divine right of kings to rule. Additionally, the Whigs on foreign policy were also very interventionist and always wanted to go fight France in Europe, supposedly for the liberty and freedom of the continent, while the Tories were quite isolationist and preferred to keep the troops home in England.

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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2019, 10:04:41 PM »

Also, there would be a bunch of FDR apologists explaining why Japanese/German/Italian internment was necessary.

Ugh, yeah, partisan red avatars in the 1940s would be as unbearable as partisan blue avatars today. And I'm saying that as someone who mostly admires FDR.
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2019, 10:11:46 PM »

There would be predictions Mondale or McGovern would win 1984 and 1972 for one.
And they would still be closer to the mark than your 2020 prediction will be.
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2019, 10:59:42 PM »

Also, there would be a bunch of FDR apologists explaining why Japanese/German/Italian internment was necessary.

Ugh, yeah, partisan red avatars in the 1940s would be as unbearable as partisan blue avatars today. And I'm saying that as someone who mostly admires FDR.
Also in the 1910s.
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2019, 12:27:31 AM »

Also, there would be a bunch of FDR apologists explaining why Japanese/German/Italian internment was necessary.

Ugh, yeah, partisan red avatars in the 1940s would be as unbearable as partisan blue avatars today. And I'm saying that as someone who mostly admires FDR.
Also in the 1910s.

Actually, I can see Fuzzy Bear, with his tendency to be at least nominally reasonable On The Issues but still tirelessly excuse and defend obvious enormities from a President he supports, being a pro-internment FDR hack in the forties.
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2019, 12:45:45 AM »

Quote from: 1865 BRTD
Poll: Would you ever visit a state that voted for McClellan?

Hell no. I'd be worried setting foot in a place full of traitors like that. Plus it might be dangerous, they might attack me upon learning I voted for Lincoln or support the Union! If I ever had to visit such a wretched place, I'd make sure to go through it quickly and would never feed my horse there.

Also I would never EVER buy a horse that was born while Buchanan was President.
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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2019, 12:53:09 AM »

^ A world where BRTD can’t go to several major cities because of this schtick, lol.
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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2019, 12:55:13 AM »

Throughout the decades, you'd have posters posting stuff like this:

"Martin Van Buren won't get elected. New Yorkers never win."

"Franklin Pierce is not going to win. New England Democrats are unelectable."

"John F. Kennedy will never get elected. Catholics can't win!"

"Donald Trump won't win. He doesn't have political or military experience."
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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2019, 12:58:25 AM »

Imagine PredictIt contracts historically.

"Will Adolf Hitler be Chancellor of German on December 31, 1945?"
"Will Richard Nixon be impeached before July 31, 1974?"
"Will the United States declare war on Japan by December 31, 1941?"
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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2019, 01:05:51 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2019, 05:39:28 AM »

A hundred years ago, when women just got the vote we'd have the same number of female posters as in 2019.

In the late 30's we'd have fash and free speech absolutists. Blue avatar Falangist Catholics and complaints that the mods had banned 'HorstWesselLives' because he'd 'merely' advocated for Jewish ethic ghettos.

In the 1950's European posters would be eye rolling at the need for a 'Coloreds Only US General Discussion Board.'

A third of posters would be John Anderson fans in 1980.

The forum would crash in November 2000 and be down for two months.
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2019, 02:22:00 PM »

In 1420 every1 would be high lmao and just post about how monarchy sucks major dick and how they hope they don't get the plague
Finally, you would get my vote in 1420.
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2019, 02:50:51 PM »

In the 1950's European posters would be eye rolling at the need for a 'Coloreds Only US General Discussion Board.
No? A public forum - at least a blind one like this - by definition can’t practice segregated discussion.

Furthermore, literally 1-2% of British whites in the 1960s said they would be willing to rent a room out to a black person. That’s far higher rates of active discrimination than most of America.
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