NJ-2: Van Drew considering switching parties over impeachment

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Remember when the DCCC intervened in the primary to clear the field for this dope?

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Remember when the DCCC intervened in the primary to clear the field for this dope?

Most Democratic voters would be elated with a recruit who flipped a district held by Republicans for a quarter century, voted for a $15 minimum wage, voted repeatedly against Border Wall funding, voted to ban offshore drilling in the Gulf, supported a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, opposed a transgender military ban, supported requiring background checks on firearm sales, voted to fund federal agencies during the government shutdown, and voted with Trump less often than multiple members of the Squad, but sure go off about how this is a failure of the DCCC rather than the buffoonish acts of one terrified boob who is afraid of voting for a position three quarters of his primary electorate supports.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Remember when the DCCC intervened in the primary to clear the field for this dope?

Most Democratic voters would be elated with a recruit who flipped a district held by Republicans for a quarter century, voted for a $15 minimum wage, voted repeatedly against Border Wall funding, voted to ban offshore drilling in the Gulf, supported a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, opposed a transgender military ban, supported requiring background checks on firearm sales, voted to fund federal agencies during the government shutdown, and voted with Trump less often than multiple members of the Squad, but sure go off about how this is a failure of the DCCC rather than the buffoonish acts of one terrified boob who is afraid of voting for a position three quarters of his primary electorate supports.

Okay.

Maybe this progressive candidate who sees fit to join the Republican Party shouldn't have been promoted by the DCCC.

[Tartarus Sauce]

Not sure the whole "he was basically a Republican" attack line coming from certain quarters is really warranted.

But yeah, this guy has really stepped in it. What a freakin' moron.

[It’s so Joever]

Lean D—->Likely R
What a cockroach. Will enjoy watching him lose in a primary.

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People are claiming that Van Drew is a progressive now? Ridiculous.

[smoltchanov]

May be - he simply sees all that impeachment thing to be utter sillyness (me - too). But - not sure, whether it's a sound reason to switch - he will NOT be welcome in Trump Republican party either.

Or because his district is R-trending and he's an opportunist? That sounds more accurate.

That's possible too. In fact - BOTH are possible

[smoltchanov]

May be - he simply sees all that impeachment thing to be utter sillyness (me - too). But - not sure, whether it's a sound reason to switch - he will NOT be welcome in Trump Republican party either.

Maybe he is centrist bipartisan independent maverick man who feels impeachment has gone too far (unlike GOP impeaching Clinton lying about getting a BJ which was totally based on principles and rule of law)

Dems should not punish Van Drew as voters only hold the left accountable for diverging too far from the ideological center and never hold the Republican party accountable for going too far right

The fact, that idiots - exist doesn't imply, that i must be one too. You are of diffirent opinion, i see...

[Landslide Lyndon]

People are claiming that Van Drew is a progressive now? Ridiculous.

Not anymore ridiculous than you people calling Elizabeth Warren a "centrist".

[wbrocks67]

It would try be *chefs kiss* if Van Drew was to win the GOP primary and then lose the General to another D.

[smoltchanov]

It would try be *chefs kiss* if Van Drew was to win the GOP primary and then lose the General to another D.

Not especially likely. District has marked Trumpist leanings, and, in fact, in 2018 Van Drew was basically considered to be the only Democrat, who could win it.

[Frenchrepublican]

Remember when the DCCC intervened in the primary to clear the field for this dope?

Most Democratic voters would be elated with a recruit who flipped a district held by Republicans for a quarter century, voted for a $15 minimum wage, voted repeatedly against Border Wall funding, voted to ban offshore drilling in the Gulf, supported a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, opposed a transgender military ban, supported requiring background checks on firearm sales, voted to fund federal agencies during the government shutdown, and voted with Trump less often than multiple members of the Squad, but sure go off about how this is a failure of the DCCC rather than the buffoonish acts of one terrified boob who is afraid of voting for a position three quarters of his primary electorate supports.

The problem is that the ''boob'' has some reasons to be worried about voting for impeachment, NJ-2 is a Trumpist district where the impeachment circus is unpopular with the general electorate,. Moving to the far left to win the primary and then losing the general election is not a smart calculus

[Tekken_Guy]

Lean R. He’ll probably lose the GOP primary, and that could actually make it easier for them to hold the seat.

[Pollster]

Lots of misconceptions about this district here. Any discussion about this district is meaningless without considering the immense power and influence wielded here by George Norcross. He is nominally a Democrat but is loyal to no party. Norcross had LoBiondo in his pocket for virtually his entire tenure. He owns the Philadelphia Inquirer (incredibly popular and trusted here) and ergo has a firm grip on the news coverage residents in this district get. Murphy has gone a long way towards reducing Norcross' power, but the 2019 midterms demonstrated how much he is still capable of.

Van Drew has always been a favorite of his, but Norcross is an adept political manager and will probably have no issue throwing him under the bus if it begins to appear that Van Drew has caused enough problems for himself that he can't be saved (and he does appear to have really stepped in it and poorly managed the PR aspects of this in every imagineable way). But if he's salvageable I fully expect the full weight of the machine to be behind him.

Unions in Atlantic City also have significant influence here in a manner similar to Las Vegas, but in a somewhat diluted way since they are specific to one corner of the district rather than virtually the entire economy.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

People are claiming that Van Drew is a progressive now? Ridiculous.

Who called Van Drew a progressive? Not me. I simply posited his voting history. With the exception of votes related to the Impeachment Inquiry and voting present on disaster relief Van Drew votes nearly unanimously against Trump.

The only person here who referred to Van Drew as a progressive was Thersites who did so in a misguided attempt to own the libs (nice one!)

[Xing]

The LIBRUL MEEDIA is at it again!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/16/politics/jeff-van-drew-donald-trump/index.html

"Jeff Van Drew's party switch is a godsend for Donald Trump"

[lfromnj]

It would try be *chefs kiss* if Van Drew was to win the GOP primary and then lose the General to another D.

Not especially likely. District has marked Trumpist leanings, and, in fact, in 2018 Van Drew was basically considered to be the only Democrat, who could win it.

I dont get this idea, I mean its Trump +4.5. IIRC d's hold basically 3/4 of the seat that voted for Trump but are less than Trump +5.

[DrScholl]

Some people here are acting as if this district is in West Texas. It's only voted for the Republican nominee for President twice out of 7 presidential elections and could very well flip back in 2020. Phil Murphy carried the district in the gubernatorial race and the statewide numbers were only a couple of points different than the presidential ones.

[lfromnj]

Some people here are acting as if this district is in West Texas. It's only voted for the Republican nominee for President twice out of 7 presidential elections and could very well flip back in 2020. Phil Murphy carried the district in the gubernatorial race and the statewide numbers were only a couple of points different than the presidential ones.

Phil Murphys gubernatorial win was just weird, he just lost the clinton won 7th but he did win the 2nd which makes sense for a return to partisanship but he also won the 11th and the 5th which trended D in 2012 to 2016(a stronger than actual number wise trend because of the sandy effect)

[Pericles]

Remember when the DCCC intervened in the primary to clear the field for this dope?

Most Democratic voters would be elated with a recruit who flipped a district held by Republicans for a quarter century, voted for a $15 minimum wage, voted repeatedly against Border Wall funding, voted to ban offshore drilling in the Gulf, supported a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, opposed a transgender military ban, supported requiring background checks on firearm sales, voted to fund federal agencies during the government shutdown, and voted with Trump less often than multiple members of the Squad, but sure go off about how this is a failure of the DCCC rather than the buffoonish acts of one terrified boob who is afraid of voting for a position three quarters of his primary electorate supports.

The problem is that the ''boob'' has some reasons to be worried about voting for impeachment, NJ-2 is a Trumpist district where the impeachment circus is unpopular with the general electorate,. Moving to the far left to win the primary and then losing the general election is not a smart calculus

Not really, a Democrat can totally survive voting for impeachment in a district Trump won by a few points, and given how it polls nationwide impeachment support is probably about even in that district anyway.

[Yellowhammer]

Great, another leftist waltzing into the GOP.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Great, another leftist waltzing into the GOP.

Let me pre-empt this and say anyone who tries to seriously argue with this is even dumber than this guy is.

[junior chįmp]

May be - he simply sees all that impeachment thing to be utter sillyness (me - too). But - not sure, whether it's a sound reason to switch - he will NOT be welcome in Trump Republican party either.

Maybe he is centrist bipartisan independent maverick man who feels impeachment has gone too far (unlike GOP impeaching Clinton lying about getting a BJ which was totally based on principles and rule of law)

Dems should not punish Van Drew as voters only hold the left accountable for diverging too far from the ideological center and never hold the Republican party accountable for going too far right

The fact, that idiots - exist doesn't imply, that i must be one too. You are of diffirent opinion, i see...

 

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

All but his Chief of Staff have resigned... and it looks like she'll be sticking with him as she just resigned as a committeewoman for the NJ Democrats.

https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1206715860582379520?s=20

[One Term Floridian]

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