Is Biden done if he loses Iowa, NH and Nevada?
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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2019, 07:45:12 AM »

Depends on how it happens. He would definitely be wounded though and probably requires an "exceeds expectations" kind of result in one of the three states for him to still have a significant chance.
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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2019, 09:44:52 AM »

Depends on how it happens. He would definitely be wounded though and probably requires an "exceeds expectations" kind of result in one of the three states for him to still have a significant chance.

The only person that can beat Biden is Bloomberg, Biden isnt going anywhere unless he loses to Bloomberg and Bloomberg is not doing well, Bloomberg is the only one that can win in the South. No one else can
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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2019, 10:30:13 AM »

No but he is in big trouble if he loses all 3
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« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2019, 01:15:08 PM »

if Joe Biden is still in the race when SC votes, he will win SC. Ergo, Joe Biden will win SC.
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« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2019, 01:37:03 PM »

The 2020 democratic primary is so weird.  Has there been a president that lost both Iowa and New Hampshire in the primary before?  A quick search yield Bill Clinton in the last 40 years but I wasn't old enough nor was I in the USA for that.

I think it is alright for Biden as long it not one single person sweep the first 2/3 states.  The worst outcome for Bernie and Warren is that they each won one state.
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« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2019, 01:39:51 PM »

if Joe Biden is still in the race when SC votes, he will win SC. Ergo, Joe Biden will win SC.

Literally this.
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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2019, 01:49:55 PM »

He will win SC unless you think minority voters will flock to another candidate. The only way that has a possibility of happening is it one candidate wins IA, NH and NV, and even then it is unlikely.
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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2019, 01:50:40 PM »

if Joe Biden is still in the race when SC votes, he will win SC. Ergo, Joe Biden will win SC.

Literally this.
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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2019, 01:52:52 PM »

NV, is the primary's first real test of diversity. Dems shouldnt be concerned over our nominee, the goal is to defeat McConnell and Trump. Dems will have a Secular Congress, ending the filibuster for good, thus, getting everything passed that Obama wanted to pass, before Boehner stopped him.
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« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2019, 07:04:09 PM »

Yes, especially if he loses them all to one candidate.
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« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2021, 09:03:53 AM »


The Chaos Scenario (IA-Buttigieg, NH-Warren, NV-Sanders, SC-Biden): I mean, Biden probably wins here because of a lack of unified opposition but honestly who tf knows? Contested Convention?

How about IA-Buttigieg, NH-Sanders, NV-Sanders, SC-Biden?

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« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2021, 04:15:51 PM »

Lol, it's pretty impressive that 4-5-2-1 ended up actually being the winning path to the nomination.
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« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2021, 06:13:48 PM »

Maybe the rest of the country just didn't care what voters in Iowa and New Hampshire think and that previous primaries were just self fulfilling prophecies
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« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2021, 10:19:22 PM »

Sometimes, I still manage to be awed by the fact that we all got to live through the blink-of-an-eye experience that was one of the most successful comeback stories - if not the most successful comeback story - in American political history.
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« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2021, 10:34:07 PM »

Thank God for South Carolina.....
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« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2021, 11:19:00 PM »

Lol, it's pretty impressive that 4-5-2-1 ended up actually being the winning path to the nomination.

It goes like this, the 4th, the 5th..the minor fall, and the major lift...
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« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2021, 12:44:49 AM »

Sometimes, I still manage to be awed by the fact that we all got to live through the blink-of-an-eye experience that was one of the most successful comeback stories - if not the most successful comeback story - in American political history.
Is it a comeback story? IA, NH, SC, and NV combined had less than 1% of the delegates. Number wise, Biden had nothing to worry

Narrative wise? Yeah it was a comback to the eyes of the media. But the media isn't the real world. How much media attention did Booty and KLOB get compared to the actual results?
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« Reply #42 on: July 05, 2021, 01:20:58 AM »

Sometimes, I still manage to be awed by the fact that we all got to live through the blink-of-an-eye experience that was one of the most successful comeback stories - if not the most successful comeback story - in American political history.

Is it a comeback story? IA, NH, SC, and NV combined had less than 1% of the delegates. Number wise, Biden had nothing to worry

Narrative wise? Yeah it was a comback to the eyes of the media. But the media isn't the real world. How much media attention did Booty and KLOB get compared to the actual results?

I mean, numbers-wise, of course he had nothing to worry about, which is why they understood that they needed to stay in & why "just make it to SC" became their maxim. The problem with the narratives about it all, though, was that bad narratives generally tend to beget, well, bad outcomes, while the opposite is obviously true of good narratives. For example, Buttigieg would've never made it as far as he did if he hadn't managed to pick up the good Spring 2019 media cycle as well as the resultant narrative that it produced that practically catapulted him into more people giving him a legitimate look. Sure, he didn't end up winning the nomination, but he literally won Iowa less than a year after having been an unknown (relatively-)small-town mayor, & then parlayed the influence thereof into a seat in Biden's Cabinet. That just doesn't happen without the positive media attention that he got. So, in that sense, the media is very much the real world, in that it can make or break the very reality in which these candidates compete. Thus, the Biden candidacy's comeback.
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« Reply #43 on: July 05, 2021, 10:17:11 AM »

The converse that bad results beget bad narratives isn't always true though. Klobuchar had terrible results in IA, placing 5th despite being from a neighboring state and having visited every county in a rural state. But that didnt hurt her in NH, where she was a strong 3rd, and the narrative seems to be that she is attractive to the midwest.

I guess its partly luck with the failure of the app.
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« Reply #44 on: July 05, 2021, 12:07:10 PM »

Biden losing SC by even as little as one-tenths of a percentage point... now that would’ve actually sunk him imo
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« Reply #45 on: July 05, 2021, 02:56:46 PM »

Is it a comeback story? IA, NH, SC, and NV combined had less than 1% of the delegates.

Um...what.

IA 49
NH 33
NV 49
SC 64

Total 195

Total delegates 4,749

Early state % =4.1%
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