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« on: November 26, 2019, 10:25:40 PM »
Absolutely (and I really can't hear it differently even when people say they are distinguishing between the two).  The same goes for me with almost any word with i or e combined with n or m.  The one I can hear the difference is when people use the vowel from get to refer to the Cincinnati Bengals, and it sounds like nails on a chalkboard (I, of course, pronounce it rhyming with Pringles).
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2019, 10:41:24 PM »
In Hindi/Urdu, if you stretch the soft e "pen" it ends up being "ai (ay)" as in main, lay, stay. If you stretch the soft "i" as in pin", it becomes "ee" as in feel / me / seething. As somebody who speaks basic Hindi (very very badly), I now think about vowels in this way and can't possibly see a soft e or soft as similar or able to stretch to become one another.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2019, 12:03:50 AM »
What is this southron nonsense.
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2019, 12:05:29 AM »
We should all speak like we're from Des Moines.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2019, 07:07:01 AM »
Only in New Zealand.

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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2019, 07:28:01 AM »
Yes.

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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2019, 07:30:42 AM »
hell no
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2019, 09:02:27 AM »
Yes, and if I try to say pen the "right" way, all I can say is pan.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2019, 09:08:22 AM »
yes, I don't like it, I try to deny it*, but I say it the same damned way.



*If I'm talking slow I spend a little more time on "pen" than I do on "pin" and my mouth shape is slightly different, but I don't normally talk slow and it sounds the exact same 99% of the time I actually say the words
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2019, 10:17:06 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2019, 10:54:40 AM »
I used to pronounce these the same way until I left the South and made a conscious effort to differentiate between the two.
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2019, 10:59:31 AM »
Yes, of course
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2019, 12:14:16 PM »
Quote from: 2,868,691 on November 27, 2019, 09:02:27 AM
Yes, and if I try to say pen the "right" way, all I can say is pan.

How??
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2019, 01:13:47 PM »
Nope
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2019, 01:16:27 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2019, 01:51:53 PM »
Quote from: Santender on November 27, 2019, 12:05:29 AM
We should all speak like we're from Des Moines Surrey.

Fixed it for you Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2019, 02:55:21 PM »
Ew no
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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2019, 05:55:09 PM »
Quote from: Dr. RI on November 27, 2019, 12:14:16 PM
Quote from: 2,868,691 on November 27, 2019, 09:02:27 AM
Yes, and if I try to say pen the "right" way, all I can say is pan.

How??

Southerners don't know how to enunciate.
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2019, 06:33:00 PM »
Quote from: MasterJedi on November 27, 2019, 05:55:09 PM
Quote from: Dr. RI on November 27, 2019, 12:14:16 PM
Quote from: 2,868,691 on November 27, 2019, 09:02:27 AM
Yes, and if I try to say pen the "right" way, all I can say is pan.

How??

Southerners don't know how to enunciate.

Tell that to the Californians and other Westerners that keep saying "caught" and "cot" are the same.
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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2019, 06:54:21 PM »
No, because my vocal chords haven't been screwed up by copious amounts of Red Bull and Marlboros.
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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2019, 07:31:38 PM »
Are you kedding mi?
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« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2019, 08:05:42 PM »
Of course not.
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« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2019, 08:16:46 PM »
Quote from: L.D. Smith on November 27, 2019, 06:33:00 PM
Quote from: MasterJedi on November 27, 2019, 05:55:09 PM
Quote from: Dr. RI on November 27, 2019, 12:14:16 PM
Quote from: 2,868,691 on November 27, 2019, 09:02:27 AM
Yes, and if I try to say pen the "right" way, all I can say is pan.

How??

Southerners don't know how to enunciate.

Tell that to the Californians and other Westerners that keep saying "caught" and "cot" are the same.
How the hell?
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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2019, 08:28:58 PM »
Of course we should discuss with maps. The shaded area pronounces pin=pen according to The Atlas of North American English. I'm from the unshaded area and I voted no.



Map from Angr at wikipedia.org, licensed under Creative Commons 3.0
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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2019, 08:32:53 PM »
Quote from: L.D. Smith on November 27, 2019, 06:33:00 PM
Quote from: MasterJedi on November 27, 2019, 05:55:09 PM
Quote from: Dr. RI on November 27, 2019, 12:14:16 PM
Quote from: 2,868,691 on November 27, 2019, 09:02:27 AM
Yes, and if I try to say pen the "right" way, all I can say is pan.

How??

Southerners don't know how to enunciate.

Tell that to the Californians and other Westerners that keep saying "caught" and "cot" are the same.

I admit to doing this one without second thought. The only way I can get them to separate is by faking a Bostonian accent.
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