Far right in Europe

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Not be naive on immigration and crime. Left-wing need to become harsh on crime and immigration and terrorism. Currently they're too naive and society is changing. Social democrats need to adapt.

Secondly, social democrats are losing older voters towards right-wing parties, but have mostly an old base because social democrats and christian democrats were known to be the foundation of the states after WWII. But their young voters and new voters are increasingly looking for alternatives - mainly because of neoliberalism and weird coalitions (like the VVD - PvdA one in the Netherlands) towards Green and far-left parties. Since climate change became a huge issue, the green parties overall have grown in Europe.

Currently the far-right has taken that position of being in favour of the welfare state combined with tough immigration policies. In Belgium, i know many older social democrat voters who now vote for far-right parties. That's their problem.

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One example is my PS4 got stolen. I know who did it, and i have the serial code. But the police isn't making work of it. It's not a priority issue to them, and it's been weeks i've heard about them. That's exactly the kind of frustration and anger that causes people to move to the right. People feel like people can commit crimes and get away with it. And if they get caught, they usually get minor punishments.

Other example, a friend of my mom sits in a wheelchair, can't find a social house or help from the society (costs for her wheelchair) because she believes immigrants and refugees get their help first. One other friend of me said that 14 of the 15 people waiting before him all had immigrant names on the waiting list for a social house. They both vote Vlaams Belang. My dad is poor and also votes Vlaams Belang because he believes cabinet members earn too much, while they have a difficult time with four kinds to end the month in the positive net, while a good friend of him's does nothing and earn a wage for nothing, because she's "sick" while she isn't, and she's even too lazy to do her own household. Her man has do to do it all, working and doing the household. It's a messy place. Society in general is unfair and it frustrates people. Hard working people have not too many benefits over not hard working people, and i'm one of those, since i'm also mentally ill. For me personally life is expensive as well and i get an income of 1000 euros without working, but my costs for doctor and things like that are also very high and now i need to keep attention to my finances. The gap between the rich and the poor is rising. I don't want to live from a disability income, that's why i intend to study. The weird thing is that i am not allowed to study while under a disability income, that i get no benefits for studying and that study costs are around 5000 euros, so it's not really encouraged. It's like society saying we prefer you to stay on a disability income and they have a hard time activating people.

That's why i want to cut social security for those who don't need it, and want to spend it on healthcare and education which is far better than what we have now. Meanwhile social democrats currently don't have really an ideology, change nothing and misinterprete a welfare society for all, including immigrants which don't work at all. Given that, a visit to a doctor costs me 1 euro, while hospitalization costs are also relatively cheap, still expensive (but instead of 4000+ euros, i have to pay like 300 euros)

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My entire family (both real-life dad and real-life mom) is full of ex social democrats who now vote for far-right candidates. They don't believe far-right is a bad thing, think the media is portraying them as bad, while seeing them providing good solutions to immigration and social security while keeping the social safety net, but they're not aware of their socially conservative agenda, or ignore it. And let's face it, society is much more liberal than the people in fact are.

Do i have another example, yes. People that often go to Brussels see a lot of immigrants there, begging for money, and pickpocketing. Everytime i go to Brussels, in my short way i'm there, i meet 20 beggers, meet beggers on the train who leave a note why they need some money, or talk to you saying their girlfriend is pregnant and that they don't have money in broken english or french.

Or on our border with France, many people do robberies in the border area, and leave through France, and they're not able to track them down because France is a different country, and the Lille Metropolitian Area also has a lot of immigrants. Police needs to communicate directly with French police, but for some reason this doesn't happen. People feel mostly powerless against the evolving society. Everyone has some kind of reason to be frustrated or angered, and baby-boomers or Gen X voters that often voted social democrat their entire life long until 1991 or later, when Vlaams Belang broke through now vote Vlaams Belang. In 1991, called "Black Sunday", R.O.S.S.E.M. and Vlaams Belang broke through. R.O.S.S.E.M is called radical reformers fighting for a fairer society, and is in fact libertarian. The party broke completely after corruption allegations against billionaire Jean-Pierre Van Rossem who also owned a F1 team than and a shares company directed towards lighting up people, mainly because he was too lazy to study, and decided that was a better way to get money quickly. In later interviews, he often laughed with that. Than we got JMDD, judo coach of belgian medal winners on Olympic Games, who is also a right-wing populist libertarian, who said the "cordon sanitaire" against Vlaams Belang was unfair. The cordon sanitaire was an agreement of all parties to promise not to ever govern with Vlaams Belang, despite how they were growing election after election and became the biggest party, but they implemented their ideas indirectly anyway. Vlaams Belang than dropped down when a new right-wing party arised, but now are rising again, until second black sunday this year in which the communist parties, the far-right parties and in the south the greens rose a lot, and all other parties lost heavily, because people were disappointed with the direction of N-VA but N-VA stole votes from CD&V and Open VLD after good governing, to make up for the losses to their far-right. And now we are in a stall as PS and N-VA, a conservative-liberal and a social democrat party are doomed to govern together, while PS voters voted PS because they don't want a government with N-VA and were threatened by their left PTB (communists), and N-VA get threatened by their right, which makes it hard to make confessions. Anyway, we will have a government no-one wants, and that is ideologically hard to create, while the far sides continue to grow, or we will have snap elections. We are already around 150-200 days without a government. Our record is 589 days without a government though.

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One example is my PS4 got stolen. I know who did it, and i have the serial code. But the police isn't making work of it. It's not a priority issue to them, and it's been weeks i've heard about them. That's exactly the kind of frustration and anger that causes people to move to the right. People feel like people can commit crimes and get away with it. And if they get caught, they usually get minor punishments.

Other example, a friend of my mom sits in a wheelchair, can't find a social house or help from the society (costs for her wheelchair) because she believes immigrants and refugees get their help first. One other friend of me said that 14 of the 15 people waiting before him all had immigrant names on the waiting list for a social house. They both vote Vlaams Belang. My dad is poor and also votes Vlaams Belang because he believes cabinet members earn too much, while they have a difficult time with four kinds to end the month in the positive net, while a good friend of him's does nothing and earn a wage for nothing, because she's "sick" while she isn't, and she's even too lazy to do her own household. Her man has do to do it all, working and doing the household. It's a messy place. Society in general is unfair and it frustrates people. Hard working people have not too many benefits over not hard working people, and i'm one of those, since i'm also mentally ill. For me personally life is expensive as well and i get an income of 1000 euros without working, but my costs for doctor and things like that are also very high and now i need to keep attention to my finances. The gap between the rich and the poor is rising. I don't want to live from a disability income, that's why i intend to study. The weird thing is that i am not allowed to study while under a disability income, that i get no benefits for studying and that study costs are around 5000 euros, so it's not really encouraged. It's like society saying we prefer you to stay on a disability income and they have a hard time activating people.

That's why i want to cut social security for those who don't need it, and want to spend it on healthcare and education which is far better than what we have now. Meanwhile social democrats currently don't have really an ideology, change nothing and misinterprete a welfare society for all, including immigrants which don't work at all. Given that, a visit to a doctor costs me 1 euro, while hospitalization costs are also relatively cheap, still expensive (but instead of 4000+ euros, i have to pay like 300 euros)

You can't study because you have a mental issue? Like, wtf. I would understand if it was intended for really sick people who have no chance of recovery (serious Syndromes which affect the brain etc.), but you're obviously capable to study, seeing the posts you write.

I basically agree with most of your points, it's a rather simple issue, which for some reason certain parties are not able to recognize.

Hope you find a way to continue your education and take care of your issues!

Well, it's possible, i'll do it, but i risk to lose my income. We will have to inform about it, but i find it pretty illogical that you can't get support when you try to activate yourself in society, which is something society should aim for.

I take care of my issues, i finally start to have a better feeling, so my depression is weakening. It'll not be gone yet, but i think it's liveable and acceptable.

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Currently the far-right has taken that position of being in favour of the welfare state combined with tough immigration policies. In Belgium, i know many older social democrat voters who now vote for far-right parties. That's their problem.

But this is not the case everywhere. Far-right parties in Western Europe diverge on their positions on economic issues and the scope of the welfare state quite a lot; some are almost socialist while others preach the neoliberal gospel of privatization, deregulation, and low taxes for the wealthy. They also diverge on many other positions and I find it difficult to employ such a schematic view. I also doubt that many far-right voters are concerned with actual policies in the first place.

That's true, but i think it matters slightly, at least it does in Belgium, Austria, Germany (?), Italy (?) and France. UK, Spain, Eastern Europe and Portugal for example have different far-right parties.