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« Reply #600 on: February 14, 2020, 07:49:51 PM »

She is @ 10% nationally & falling so she likely won't make the debates after South Carolina anyways. At this rate she will almost definitely lose Massachusetts & will probably get 0 Delegates everywhere except Massachusetts. I am not sure why she wants to have this humiliating finish. She doesn't even have the money to run ads in California & Texas.

Maybe she wants to be the VP to Klobuchar or Biden as the progressive figure in a sort of unity ticket. This is becoming Yang or Bennet level stuff & forcefully carrying on despite having no chance.

She got delegates in Iowa so idk what you're talking about
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« Reply #601 on: February 14, 2020, 07:55:11 PM »
« Edited: February 14, 2020, 07:58:26 PM by Cory Booker »

Warren said after NH loss, she's got 55 state strategy, with Julian Castro as the enabler. Shes gonna endorse Bernie eventually.

This is an exciting time for Bernie, he has the chance to win FL in GE like Lieberman won for Gore, and NC and cement the 46th prez
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« Reply #602 on: February 14, 2020, 10:41:16 PM »

The more I think about this the more I think she'll drop out after Nevada. She's going to do terrible there, if she can't even get double digits in NH. The 15%/precinct rule is going to shrink her delegate total further and she'll end up with probably no national delegates out of Nevada.

If she stays in after another embarrassing showing in Nevada then that’s a clear indicator she’s much more concerned with landing a consolation trophy for herself as a VP for Bloomberg/Biden/Klobuchar than she is about whatever BS she’s spewing. She’s going to get destroyed in Massachusetts in embarrassing fashion, perhaps bad enough to make Marco Rubio’s Florida loss to Trump look respectable. And she’ll deserve every bit of it.
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« Reply #603 on: February 15, 2020, 03:32:13 PM »

Warren will be in Washington state on Nevada caucus night:



Though, to be fair, the Nevada caucus starts at like noon, and it's unclear how long it'll be until a winner is declared.  Not sure it makes sense for any of the candidates to hand out in the state all day, for many hours after everyone has voted.
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« Reply #604 on: February 15, 2020, 11:41:54 PM »

Elizabeth Warren’s struggles put Massachusetts ‘in play’ on Super Tuesday

Elizabeth Warren’s weak performances in Iowa and New Hampshire have put Massachusetts into play in the race for the Democratic nomination, according to operatives and supporters of rival campaigns that are staffing up and mobilizing droves of volunteers as they look to dent her home-state advantage in the Super Tuesday primary. “Absolutely, yes, we’re fighting for the state,” said Rosemary Boeglin, Sanders’ northeast press secretary. “We think that we have a path there and we’re going to do everything we can to get the votes of Bay Staters.” Tess Whittlesey, a Buttigieg campaign spokeswoman, said Massachusetts is “a state we’ve been playing heavily in through our volunteer network for a long time now. It’s one of the reasons we’re so excited to get boots on the ground.”

Warren surrogates dismissed her rivals’ comments, saying the senator retains a wealth of support. “Of course they want to say that about her home state. They want to undermine her confidence. But it’s just not true,” said Marjorie Decker, D-Cambridge. “There’s a lot of enthusiasm and a lot of support and it’s deep.” Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is among those pouring resources into Massachusetts, with six offices and 56 staffers, including 45 field operatives, his campaign said.

Buttigieg has also profited in Massachusetts and has drawn large crowds to his public appearances here. The campaign is putting four staffers in the state to help organize a network of roughly 3,700 volunteers. “Certainly for the Bernie campaign it’s much more in play,” said Anna Callahan, one of roughly 150 Sanders supporters who braved the bitter cold Saturday for a Boston Common rally-turned-canvass launch. “Now that Warren is doing less well in the polls and seems less electable, I think that leans very strongly in favor of Bernie.”

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/02/15/elizabeth-warrens-struggles-put-massachusetts-in-play-on-super-tuesday/

If she lasts till Super Tuesday, will she win Massachusetts ?
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« Reply #605 on: February 16, 2020, 01:52:51 AM »

Warren will be in Washington state on Nevada caucus night:



Though, to be fair, the Nevada caucus starts at like noon, and it's unclear how long it'll be until a winner is declared.  Not sure it makes sense for any of the candidates to hand out in the state all day, for many hours after everyone has voted.


It makes zero sense for her to stay in Nevada all day when the caucus starts at noon and ends at 2. It makes perfect sense that the media establishment is trying to turn this into some sort of scandal though. She is a high energy campaigner who is doing multiple rallies a day.
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« Reply #606 on: February 17, 2020, 11:33:30 AM »

She's a vanity candidate at this point anyway, so it makes sense to focus on large metros where she can draw large crowds.

She has more delegates than your candidate. Unfortunately, the media did not obsess over Warren's 3rd place IA finish like they did Klobuchar's third place NH finish.
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« Reply #607 on: February 17, 2020, 11:47:59 AM »

I feel like Hillary went to Texas the night of the Nevada caucus but maybe I’m wrong.
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« Reply #608 on: February 17, 2020, 12:46:19 PM »

She's a vanity candidate at this point anyway, so it makes sense to focus on large metros where she can draw large crowds.

She has more delegates than your candidate. Unfortunately, the media did not obsess over Warren's 3rd place IA finish like they did Klobuchar's third place NH finish.

You can blame the Iowa Democratic Party for Warren's third place not getting more attention.

As for New Hampshire, Klobuchar somehow managed to trounce Warren by more than 2:1 despite a pronounced disadvantage in spending, organizing, and media attention over the preceding year, and she did this even after a disappoint result in Iowa.

Maybe Warren could have made a similar mark if she had shown a pulse during the New Hampshire debate, or if she had not arrogantly premised her closing argument on "WOMEN WIN" as if there were not two other women actively seeking the Democratic nomination.

She may have gotten less media attention over the last year, but the media has been fawning over Klobuchar for the last month or so, which is when it really matters. Warren has been largely ignored as if she were yesterday's news.
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« Reply #609 on: February 17, 2020, 06:01:40 PM »

With Biden: Georgia
With Bloomberg: Florida
With Sanders: Florida, but very close. Both are Lean R. Sanders is bad fit for Sun Belt
With Buttigieg: Florida
With Klobuchar: Georgia
With Warren: Florida, but very close. Both are Likely R. Warren is also bad fit for Sun Belt and Rust Belt

Why is Warren seen as a bad fit for both the Sunbelt and the Rust Belt? Is there any hard data showing that aside from the NYTimes piece?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/upshot/trump-biden-warren-polls.amp.html
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« Reply #610 on: February 17, 2020, 09:54:58 PM »

I feel like Hillary went to Texas the night of the Nevada caucus but maybe I’m wrong.

Indeed. She held a rally that night at Texas Southern University

https://time.com/4231739/hillary-clinton-nevada-caucuses-texas/
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« Reply #611 on: February 18, 2020, 02:02:30 AM »

Warren had the nomination. There is a program known as Per Capita, if she included Latinos in that group, that receives monies, she could of used he Native American trait to her advantage, with Latinos. Instead of being compounded on her wealth tax
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« Reply #612 on: February 18, 2020, 10:33:13 AM »

She is @ 10% nationally & falling so she likely won't make the debates after South Carolina anyways. At this rate she will almost definitely lose Massachusetts & will probably get 0 Delegates everywhere except Massachusetts. I am not sure why she wants to have this humiliating finish. She doesn't even have the money to run ads in California & Texas.

Maybe she wants to be the VP to Klobuchar or Biden as the progressive figure in a sort of unity ticket. This is becoming Yang or Bennet level stuff & forcefully carrying on despite having no chance.

Perhaps she is staying in in case Bernie (or Biden, or Bloomberg, though they're less in her lane) has a health crisis that takes him out of the running.
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« Reply #613 on: February 18, 2020, 10:57:34 AM »

Warren's campaign is falling apart. I think she's just waiting to see how she does in NV to make decisions going forward. If she comes in first, second, or third she probably stays in (even though she'd need first place to actually have a shot). She can't be delusional enough to think that she has a chance after losing the first three contests.
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« Reply #614 on: February 18, 2020, 08:11:33 PM »



We must YELL it because people still are't getting it...

Warren is polling DOUBLE what Klobuchar is polling NATIONALLY as well as in NEVADA and SOUTH CAROLINA. She also has MORE DELEGATES than Amy Klobuchar does.

This own firm's primary poll has Warren ahead of both Buttigieg and Klobuchar nationally!

Why would Warren not be included in polling against Trump?
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« Reply #615 on: February 18, 2020, 08:41:16 PM »

Liz knows that this debate tomorrow is likely her last stand (even if it might be too late). With Bloomberg on stage I am excited to see how she does. I think she's gonna go all in.
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« Reply #616 on: February 18, 2020, 08:54:12 PM »

Unfortunately she is going all out vs Bernie & posted a crap statement about online behavior of Bernie's supporters & how Bernie is responsible for that. I think she will hit Bernie hard. Maybe she will also push back against Klobuchar or Pete. She is crashing & wants to take people down with her.

This is not her last stand. She will also be in South Carolina debate & will stay till Super Tuesday. I don't think she can stay beyond that & she has to drop out after that.
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« Reply #617 on: February 18, 2020, 11:26:27 PM »

Women need to be cleaning up messes


Imagine if Nikki Haley said this.
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« Reply #618 on: February 18, 2020, 11:29:01 PM »

Women need to be cleaning up messes


Imagine if Nikki Haley said this.

Yawn.
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« Reply #619 on: February 18, 2020, 11:34:16 PM »

As much as I like Warren she's really running a zombie campaign at this point and should drop out.
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« Reply #620 on: February 19, 2020, 01:43:18 AM »

Women need to be cleaning up messes

Imagine if Nikki Haley said this.

She's gone completely off message. How unfortunate.
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« Reply #621 on: February 19, 2020, 03:42:33 AM »

Women need to be cleaning up messes


Imagine if Nikki Haley said this.

So she attempted to play her girl power card but instead just reinforced a sexist trope.
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« Reply #622 on: February 19, 2020, 10:54:55 AM »

Elizabeth Warren's Superpac Persist is running TV ads in Nevada and they are spending huge money while Warren was blasting Our Revolution which was doing volunteer work and not running ads as being a Superpac. What a hypocritical person and a total fraud.
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« Reply #623 on: February 19, 2020, 01:17:16 PM »

Even the slightest hint of a Warren revival will be picked up and magnified by the media in order to stop Bernie. What is odd is why the establishment would even prefer Warren to Bernie. She loses just as many old voters as Bernie while not pulling the same numbers among his young base.
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« Reply #624 on: February 19, 2020, 02:27:35 PM »

Even the slightest hint of a Warren revival will be picked up and magnified by the media in order to stop Bernie. What is odd is why the establishment would even prefer Warren to Bernie. She loses just as many old voters as Bernie while not pulling the same numbers among his young base.

If this was true, why didn’t they do it after she had a surprisingly strong finish in Iowa?  Instead, they refused to even cover her speech, unlike the candidates way behind her.
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