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« on: November 03, 2019, 09:15:15 AM »

Biden 51
Trump 39

Warren 46
Trump 41

Sanders 49
Trump 41

Clinton (?) 43
Trump 41

Buttigieg 41
Trump 41

Trump Approval: 42/57
Impeach and remove Trump: 49/45

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-results-october-27-30-2019
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2019, 09:56:49 AM »

Twitter meltdown incoming.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2019, 11:31:09 AM »

Pete Buttigieg underperforming Hillary Clinton is probably something you would expect to be getting more coverage.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2019, 11:52:16 AM »

Pete Buttigieg underperforming Hillary Clinton is probably something you would expect to be getting more coverage.

Buttigieg would be an abysmal choice, hopefully he doesn't win Iowa.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2019, 12:09:16 PM »

Pete Buttigieg underperforming Hillary Clinton is probably something you would expect to be getting more coverage.

Half of Americans have never heard of him so far ... vs. 95-100% name recognition for Trump/Biden/Sanders/Warren.

Obama also trailed McCain by a lot compared to Hillary at that stage in 2007.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2019, 12:48:44 PM »

Rather than obsessing over the Buttigieg number, this number is probably more telling:

Warren 46
Trump 41

Sanders 49
Trump 41

Clinton (?) 43
Trump 41

Buttigieg 41
Trump 41
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2019, 12:58:36 PM »

Pete being less popular than Hillary, even after her epic Tulsi rant which hemorrhaged a lot of support for her, is not a great sign for his campaign.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2019, 01:02:36 PM »

Pete being less popular than Hillary, even after her epic Tulsi rant which hemorrhaged a lot of support for her, is not a great sign for his campaign.

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Half of Americans have never heard of him so far ... vs. 95-100% name recognition for Trump/Biden/Sanders/Warren.

Obama also trailed McCain by a lot compared to Hillary at that stage in 2007.

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FAV. For each of the following individuals, please indicate if you have an unfavorable or favorable impression of that person. If you don't know enough about the person to have an opinion, you can say that too.

Trump: 40% favourable, 55% unfavourable, 3% Don’t know enough to say
Pete: 27% favourable, 24% unfavourable, 47% Don’t know enough to say
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2019, 01:12:08 PM »

In December 2007, Obama was more known than Pete is now in a FOX poll - yet trailed McCain by 4 points (Hillary+1):

https://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/122007_release_web.pdf

Obama: 49-33 favourable
Hillary: 45-49 unfavourable
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2019, 01:35:32 PM »

Atrocious numbers for Trump, as usual. Every poll that has Uncle Joe over 50% is just wonderful.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2019, 01:36:59 PM »

Atrocious numbers for Trump, as usual. Every poll that has Uncle Joe over 50% is just wonderful.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2019, 01:43:24 PM »

Tbh the fact that these types of numbers continue to come despite Biden weathering a lot of fire and the other candidates becoming more well-known makes me move much more to his side.
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2019, 03:24:43 PM »

Trump only got in due to Clinton scandal; as a result, Hilary was defeated by the Gary Johnson vote  Voting norms will go back to 2012, with OH voting Dem. Too many rich people are getting away with taxes
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2019, 07:44:32 PM »

In December 2007, Obama was more known than Pete is now in a FOX poll - yet trailed McCain by 4 points (Hillary+1):

https://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/122007_release_web.pdf

Obama: 49-33 favourable
Hillary: 45-49 unfavourable

This is why I think the individual polls are all off.  IMO what would actually happen if the presidential election were Tuesday is something like Dem +3 in the PV regardless of the candidate, which would make the EC outcome almost exactly 50/50 (with the extra 1% of the PV coming from Trump only winning Texas by 3-5, offset somewhat by increased packing of the Trump vote in Appalachian/MS Valley states).
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2019, 09:37:59 AM »

Rather than obsessing over the Buttigieg number, this number is probably more telling:

Warren 46
Trump 41

Sanders 49
Trump 41

Clinton (?) 43
Trump 41

Buttigieg 41
Trump 41

I can agree with you here. Trump is stuck at 41% against most of these candidates, and does even worse against Biden. Of course, I suspect that his final percentage will be somewhere around 45%-close to 2016. However, the consolidation of much of the third-party vote behind the Democratic nominee, along with the shifts that will take place in states such as Arizona, Georgia, and Texas, makes it very likely that he loses by around 5-9%, particularly to Biden. He will definitely lose the Electoral College if the Democratic nominee wins the PV by at least 3%.
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2019, 10:31:56 AM »
« Edited: November 05, 2019, 10:37:11 AM by GP270watch »

 I agree due to the polarized nature of our elections I think Trump gets around 45% give or take a few points. He can win with 46%, low turnout, losing the PV and multiple candidates running because he already has.

 But 2020 will not be a low turnout election. There will probably be multiple candidates including some running just to spoil the Democrats chance at victory. So we'll have to wait and see. If Trump is really closer to 40% than 45% he's toast.

 Also Trump was ranting the other day about how he told Fox they need better pollsters. Could you imagine the scandal if any other President of The United States told a "news" organization that they needed to fire their pollsters to hire ones more friendly to him. But this was just glanced over because Trump.
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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2019, 11:46:49 AM »

Rather than obsessing over the Buttigieg number, this number is probably more telling:

Warren 46
Trump 41

Sanders 49
Trump 41

Clinton (?) 43
Trump 41

Buttigieg 41
Trump 41

I can agree with you here. Trump is stuck at 41% against most of these candidates, and does even worse against Biden. Of course, I suspect that his final percentage will be somewhere around 45%-close to 2016. However, the consolidation of much of the third-party vote behind the Democratic nominee, along with the shifts that will take place in states such as Arizona, Georgia, and Texas, makes it very likely that he loses by around 5-9%, particularly to Biden. He will definitely lose the Electoral College if the Democratic nominee wins the PV by at least 3%.

It would be a consolation prize if Trump comes close to or gets around a majority of the PV and yet still doesn't outperform Obama 2012 in the EV. It would at least show that Democrats can adapt and just didn't have enough votes because they simply couldn't argue against the fundamentals.
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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2019, 02:40:38 PM »

Pete being less popular than Hillary, even after her epic Tulsi rant which hemorrhaged a lot of support for her, is not a great sign for his campaign.

LOL. I would ask for some supporting evidence for this nonsensical claim if it was anyone but you.
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