LC 5.6: Lincoln Assualt Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act (Passed)
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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2019, 11:27:42 PM »

Motion for a final vote
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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2019, 09:50:11 AM »

Councilors have 24 hours to object the motion.
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« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2019, 12:20:16 PM »

The objection period has closed and councilors now have 48 hours to vote AYE, NAY or ABSTAIN.
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« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2019, 12:44:38 PM »

AYE!
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« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2019, 02:03:52 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2019, 04:47:55 PM »
« Edited: November 25, 2019, 04:53:51 PM by Representative fhtagn »


Not sure why you voted in favor of something you voted down the previous session, especially when none of the issues from the last bill were resolved in this one.

Did you forget about why the bill was bad?

For example:

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« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2019, 04:57:41 PM »

Some other important bits that someone who voted this down last session seems to have forgotten about:

I'd like to see someone address what is wrong with current regulations on fully automatic weapons?

Whether or not someone "needs" one is irrelevant. What good reason is there for a ban when they currently aren't harming anyone?

No one has been killed with a legally owned machine gun in Atlasia since 1988. There have been a whopping 2 murders with such weapons since 1934.


I'm concerned regarding the vague ban on possession of Title II weapons and how the regional government plans to institute such a ban. Most of these types of weapons are already heavily regulated and are not readily available for gun owners. Will museums be prohibited from displaying historical weaponry matching Title II descriptions?

If the purpose of this part of the bill is to address public safety, I would argue that the Firearms Safety Act did that perfectly fine without instituting a ban.

Also, why are shotguns specifically targeted in Sec 5? Why tax such a specific firearm?

There are no exceptions for museums or artists. TV and movies often feature legally owned machine guns. No studio would be able to film anything involving such weapons in Lincoln. Talk about cutting off your own nose to spite ... who are yall even trying to spite with this?


I echo the sentiments of Pyro, we’ve already passed comprehensive gun reform, and such changes are very similar or go into further depth than this one. This bill isn’t needed.
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« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2019, 09:09:28 PM »

Nay.

The aye's have it and the bill passes 2-1.

Aye: 2 (S019, Pragmatist_TNAG)
Nay: 1 (OneJ_)
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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2019, 03:12:48 AM »

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Lincoln Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act

SECTION I: NAME

1. This bill may be cited as the Lincoln Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act.
2. This bill may, in short, be cited as the Lincoln Assault Weapon Ban Act.

SECTION II: ASSAULT WEAPON BAN

1. There shall be a regiowide ban on the purchasing, sale, or possession of assualt weapons, these weapons include semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns, which can accept detachable magazines, as well as revolving cylindrical shotguns.

2. Any weapon that is purchased, sold, or possessed may not have a folding or collapsible stock, a bayonet lug, a threaded barrel, a grenade launcher, or a barrel shroud.

SECTION III: AUTOMATIC WEAPON BAN

1. There shall be a ban on the purchasing, sale, or possession of fully automatic weapons, also known as Title II weapons under the National Firearms Act.

SECTION IV: LEGAL LIABILITIES FOR GUN MANUFACTURERS

1. Gun manufacturers may be sued if their weapons are used in violent crimes, by family members, close friends, and/or legal counsel of family members or close friends of gun violence victims.

2. Manufacturers may be sued for up to $15 million.

3. These cases will be be submitted to, heard, and ruled on by Lincoln's regional Justice.

SECTION V: GUN TAX

1. There shall be a 15% additional tax imposed on all shotguns

2. There shall be a 30% additional tax imposed on all handguns and pistols

3. There shall be a 50% additional tax imposed on all other firearms, that are legal to purchase, under this bill.

SECTION VI: TIMING

1. This bill shall take effect, one week after being signed by the Governor.

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« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2019, 10:19:52 AM »
« Edited: November 27, 2019, 10:29:05 AM by Representative fhtagn »

And this is why you don't let people who are horribly uneducated about gun issues write bad bills or have the ability to vote for and sign off on something they clearly don't understand (in fact, the Governor understands so little, he signed the wrong version of the bill).

It's a shame how far Lincoln has fallen.
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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2019, 10:41:11 AM »

And this is why you don't let people who are horribly uneducated about gun issues write bad bills or have the ability to vote for and sign off on something they clearly don't understand (in fact, the Governor understands so little, he signed the wrong version of the bill).

It's a shame how far Lincoln has fallen.

I mean, you could always try and sue claiming this is unconstitutional. Mr R did threaten to do so with the previous gun bill.

Or to win an election and repeal the bill Tongue
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« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2019, 11:18:37 AM »

And this is why you don't let people who are horribly uneducated about gun issues write bad bills or have the ability to vote for and sign off on something they clearly don't understand (in fact, the Governor understands so little, he signed the wrong version of the bill).

It's a shame how far Lincoln has fallen.

I mean, you could always try and sue claiming this is unconstitutional. Mr R did threaten to do so with the previous gun bill.

Or to win an election and repeal the bill Tongue

Still worth pointing out that one of that Pragmatist_TNAG clearly must have lost his memory (or just doesn't pay attention), and the fact that SNJC and Jimmy know absolutely nothing about gun issues.

It's a shame that the Labor Party pushes people like that.
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« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2019, 12:51:40 PM »
« Edited: November 27, 2019, 01:03:28 PM by Lincoln Republican »

I am so proud of my region for supporting this landmark legislation, and for passing it into law.

Thank you for your hard work.

Thank you Governor and legislators for having the courage and for having the forward thinking for passing this groundbreaking and life saving legislation.   
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