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« Reply #500 on: January 25, 2024, 01:56:35 PM »

Everyone's opinion on art is subjective, but if all you have to contribute to a discussion is the equivalent "well, you know, it's just like, your opinion, man" in response to someone who's making substantive arguments to back up their preferences, at least the latter person is being subjective in an interesting way.

And the fact that art’s quality is subjective doesn’t mean we can’t make objective statements about other aspects of it. Star Wars’ tech objectively advanced movie technology more than 99.9% of other films. We can quibble about the specifics, but it’s wrong to act like the word “objective” has no place in analyzing such things.
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« Reply #501 on: January 25, 2024, 02:11:22 PM »

Sigh.


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« Reply #502 on: January 25, 2024, 03:25:29 PM »


I’m not watching that. Use your own words.
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« Reply #503 on: January 25, 2024, 03:29:21 PM »


Is nine minutes too long for your attention span?
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« Reply #504 on: January 25, 2024, 03:39:42 PM »

he's getting worse at this, which is amazing
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« Reply #505 on: January 25, 2024, 03:43:43 PM »


Is nine minutes too long for your attention span?

If the argument is worth making, you should make it yourself. Don't just substitute other people's analysis for your own.
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« Reply #506 on: January 25, 2024, 03:55:06 PM »


Is nine minutes too long for your attention span?

If the argument is worth making, you should make it yourself. Don't just substitute other people's analysis for your own.

I admit that's a cop-out I haven't seen until now.
Kudos kid for keeping things interesting.
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« Reply #507 on: January 25, 2024, 04:04:21 PM »


Is nine minutes too long for your attention span?

If the argument is worth making, you should make it yourself. Don't just substitute other people's analysis for your own.

I admit that's a cop-out I haven't seen until now.
Kudos kid for keeping things interesting.

Are you capable of having a conversation with another human being? I've been trying to get you to explain your perspective for two pages of this thread. This does not have to be a hostile interaction if you don't insist on making it one.

I watched the first few minutes of that video, but the guy is only talking about subjectivity of the quality of movies. That's unrelated to what I'm talking about, so I'm asking you again to respond specifically to what I said instead of posting a generic reply video someone else made that doesn't even address the subject of this discussion. Is there a language barrier here I'm not understanding?
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« Reply #508 on: January 25, 2024, 04:25:25 PM »


Is nine minutes too long for your attention span?

If the argument is worth making, you should make it yourself. Don't just substitute other people's analysis for your own.

I admit that's a cop-out I haven't seen until now.
Kudos kid for keeping things interesting.

Are you capable of having a conversation with another human being? I've been trying to get you to explain your perspective for two pages of this thread. This does not have to be a hostile interaction if you don't insist on making it one.

I watched the first few minutes of that video, but the guy is only talking about subjectivity of the quality of movies. That's unrelated to what I'm talking about, so I'm asking you again to respond specifically to what I said instead of posting a generic reply video someone else made that doesn't even address the subject of this discussion. Is there a language barrier here I'm not understanding?
See this is why I don't understand the knee-jerk rallying around and defense of LL. Even if you don't care about how one-sided and shallow his political commentary is (most of his new threads and commentary could be accurately replicated by a bot that scrapes liberal formerly Twitter accounts), because you're such a hack you only care about the ideological orientation, he's still extremely unpleasant to deal with when discussing things that aren't even political at all like this, and one of only two posters I've noticed who has a tendency to actually alienate people in those threads who take the same position as him.
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« Reply #509 on: January 25, 2024, 04:36:18 PM »


Is nine minutes too long for your attention span?

If the argument is worth making, you should make it yourself. Don't just substitute other people's analysis for your own.

I admit that's a cop-out I haven't seen until now.
Kudos kid for keeping things interesting.

Are you capable of having a conversation with another human being? I've been trying to get you to explain your perspective for two pages of this thread. This does not have to be a hostile interaction if you don't insist on making it one.

I watched the first few minutes of that video, but the guy is only talking about subjectivity of the quality of movies. That's unrelated to what I'm talking about, so I'm asking you again to respond specifically to what I said instead of posting a generic reply video someone else made that doesn't even address the subject of this discussion. Is there a language barrier here I'm not understanding?
See this is why I don't understand the knee-jerk rallying around and defense of LL. Even if you don't care about how one-sided and shallow his political commentary is (most of his new threads and commentary could be accurately replicated by a bot that scrapes liberal formerly Twitter accounts), because you're such a hack you only care about the ideological orientation, he's still extremely unpleasant to deal with when discussing things that aren't even political at all like this, and one of only two posters I've noticed who has a tendency to actually alienate people in those threads who take the same position as him.

The explanation is pretty simple: Those who like him haven't paid enough attention to him to realize how awful he is.
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« Reply #510 on: January 25, 2024, 05:57:20 PM »

Greta Gerwig is one of my idols and I love her work. That being said, the backlash against her and Margot not being nominated is really dumb. Barbie is far from her best work imo, but even so...this is a pretty strong year overall and trashing films that weren't as successful says more about the people whining than the Academy.
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« Reply #511 on: January 25, 2024, 10:30:05 PM »

I'm not one to mindlessly parrot classy-person conventional wisdom about what are and aren't good movies; I think there are serious arguments to be made in defense of movies like Shock Treatment and Showgirls. But I'm not going to loudly and unpleasantly insist that awards shows need to acknowledge these movies (lol. lmao, even), and I'm certainly not going to stick up for focus-grouped-to-hell-and-back hyper-blockbusters as if the people who made Avengers Wars 69 are suffering for not having won Best Adapted Screenplay.
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« Reply #512 on: January 30, 2024, 07:04:16 AM »

Of the nominees I've seen:

1) Oppenheimer (not a nolan superfan, but it genuinely worked for me)
2) Zone of Interest (never want to watch it again, but very chilling
3) Past Lives
4) Poor Things (although ruffalo is the best performance of the year)
5) Barbie
6) flower moon

Will probably watch Anatomy of a Fall, Holdovers and American fiction. I can't see why I'd watch maestro though.
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« Reply #513 on: January 30, 2024, 07:53:50 AM »
« Edited: January 30, 2024, 08:07:00 AM by Red Velvet »

Of the Best Picture lineup I’ve seen 7 out of 10 but in the next three weeks I will watch two more. My current ranking goes like this:

1) Anatomy of a Fall
2) The Holdovers
3) Killers of the Flower Moon
4) Barbie
5) Past Lives
6) Oppenheimer
7) Maestro

Poor Things premieres this next Thursday in Brazil and Zone of Interest in February 15th so I’ll update this list soon.

There’s no release date so far for American Fiction that I’m aware of.

Of the 7 I’ve watched, only Anatomy of a Fall is an all-time masterpiece. But The Holdovers and also the Scorsese film are still very great films that will be quite memorable for me, coming close to it!

Barbie will also be memorable but not just because of the film quality but also because of the whole cultural phenomenon that it was.

Past Lives is a good movie with interesting concept that loses itself in the end IMO and becomes way too manipulative.

Oppenheimer I appreciate the tech aspects but dislike it as a movie.

Maestro is just too bland to even hate on. It’s the “also there” movie that people even forget is amongst the contenders. But I guess it’s nice to have a film in there to cater to the older crowd that gets excited about that kind of film?

Very good line up overall, one of the strongest in years and also very balanced! I’ve been hearing good stuff about the two movies I’m watching next, so it will consolidate it as one of the best I’ve seen.

Just having Anatomy of a Fall in there elevates it to a much higher level than the average year.
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« Reply #514 on: January 30, 2024, 10:51:05 AM »

Having now seen The Zone Of Interest, it's mind-blowing that they gave it an Adapted Screenplay nomination instead of Killers Of The Flower Moon. It's an art-house film thin on plot.
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« Reply #515 on: March 10, 2024, 12:41:21 PM »

Academy Award Predictions:

Best Picture:
Oppenheimer

Best Director:
Christopher Nolan

Best Actress:
Lily Gladstone

Best Actor:
Cillian Murphy

Best Supporting Actress:
Da'Vine Joy Randolph

Best Supporting Actor:
Robert Downey Jr.

Best Adapted Screenplay:
American Fiction

Best Original Screenplay:
Anatomy of a Fall

Best Cinematography:
Oppenheimer

Best Costume Design:
Poor Things

Best Film Editing:
Oppenheimer

Best Makeup and Hairstyling:
Poor Things

Best Production Design:
Poor Things

Best Score:
Oppenheimer

Best Song:
What Was I Made For (Barbie)

Best Sound:
The Zone of Interest

Best Visual Effects:
Godzilla Minus One

Best Animated Feature:
The Boy and the Heron

Best Documentary Feature:
20 Days in Mariupol

Best International Film:
The Zone of Interest

Best Animated Short:
WAR IS OVER!

Best Documentary Short:
The ABC's of Book Banning

Best Live Action Short:
The Wonderful World of Henry Sugar



What I want to win:

Best Picture:
Anatomy of a Fall

Best Director:
Christopher Nolan

Best Actress:
Sandra Huller

Best Actor:
Cillian Murphy

Best Supporting Actress:
Danielle Brooks (this is such an awful category this year, that I would have to vote Danielle Brooks just because I couldn't bring myself to vote for anyone else.)

Best Supporting Actor:
Ryan Gosling

Best Adapted Screenplay:
The Zone of Interest

Best Original Screenplay:
Anatomy of a Fall

Best Cinematography:
Oppenheimer

Best Costume Design:
Barbie

Best Film Editing:
Anatomy of a Fall

Best Makeup and Hairstyling:
Society of the Snow

Best Production Design:
Barbie

Best Score:
American Fiction

Best Song:
I'm Just Ken (Barbie)

Best Sound:
Oppenheimer

Best Visual Effects:
The Creator

Best Animated Feature:
Robot Dreams

Best Documentary Feature:
20 Days in Mariupol

Best International Feature:
The Teachers Lounge

Best Animated Short:
Ninety-Five Senses

Best Documentary Short:
Island in Between

Best Live Action Short:
Invincible
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« Reply #516 on: March 10, 2024, 07:14:04 PM »

Woah, three wins in a row for Poor Things.

(I absolutely loved the movie)
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« Reply #517 on: March 10, 2024, 07:40:25 PM »

And following the Berlinale, the Oscars now have their own woke anti-Semitism scandal. 🤮
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« Reply #518 on: March 10, 2024, 07:52:29 PM »

Godzilla is now an Oscar-winning franchise.
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« Reply #519 on: March 10, 2024, 07:56:16 PM »

Fun Oscars so far. Wish I'd watched Poor Things in advance, I definitely have to now. Not sure if it'll keep up its wins or if Oppenheimer will get more from here on.
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« Reply #520 on: March 10, 2024, 08:20:11 PM »

Wes Anderson gets home an Oscar too for Henry Sugar.
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« Reply #521 on: March 10, 2024, 09:35:14 PM »
« Edited: March 10, 2024, 09:57:46 PM by Dr Oz Lost Party! »

EMMA STONE WINS!!!

One of the few actresses ever to have been able to clinch a second acting Oscar by the age of 35.

You all really should see Poor Things. It's true that there are quite a few sex scenes, but it's a very beautiful film, nonetheless.
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« Reply #522 on: March 10, 2024, 09:46:12 PM »

I try to keep my Nolan-bro tendencies on the down-low (for your sake as much as mine), but after he was snubbed for Inception, Interstellar, and particularly Dunkirk, I’m glad to see the drought finally end tonight.
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« Reply #523 on: March 10, 2024, 10:20:18 PM »

Unlike what happened in some previous years, in 2024, I agree to all the prizes.

But some events happen in the Oscars every year
Jokes that aren't really jokes
People of the left complaining that the Oscars are too right-wing and people of the right complaining that the Oscars are too left-wing
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« Reply #524 on: March 10, 2024, 10:39:03 PM »

Emma Stone winning over Lily Gladstone was a bit of a surprise, otherwise 'Oppenheimer' winning the most *yawn*.
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