What would reduce the poverty rate?
Talk Elections
Forum
Contact
|
US Election Atlas
Election 2020
Election Results
Election Info
Atlas Wiki
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email?
April 10, 2021, 02:10:46 PM
Talk Elections
General Politics
Economics
(Moderator:
Torie
)
What would reduce the poverty rate?
« previous
next »
Pages:
[
1
]
Author
Topic: What would reduce the poverty rate? (Read 1929 times)
Republican Left
Left Wing Republican
Rookie
Posts: 108
What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
on:
October 30, 2019, 11:53:42 AM »
How would you reduce the poverty rate, specifically in the U.S but answers for other countries are welcome? How do you think poverty in other countries is different to that America?
Logged
God-Empress Stacey I of House Abrams
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
Posts: 53,450
Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #1 on:
October 30, 2019, 02:15:22 PM »
We all know what reduces poverty. Only one thing has ever successfully done so anywhere in the history of the world. It's called redistribution.
Logged
Del Tachi
Republican95
Atlas Icon
Posts: 10,288
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #2 on:
October 31, 2019, 10:49:59 PM »
In the developing world: better inputs for smallholding farmers that will crowd-in additional improved cultivation practices.
Logged
Kingpoleon
Atlas Star
Posts: 21,802
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #3 on:
November 01, 2019, 08:16:01 PM »
Someone wanting to badly enough.
Logged
Egotistic Egoist / Materialistic Materialist
John Dule
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 8,458
Political Matrix
E: 6.57, S: -7.50
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #4 on:
November 03, 2019, 05:22:03 PM »
Cheaper housing and fewer zoning regulations. Scrapping rent control laws. Bolstering the community college system and encouraging people to get degrees from there.
Logged
Averroës Nix
Аverroës 🦉
Atlas Icon
Posts: 14,056
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #5 on:
November 18, 2019, 09:25:34 PM »
Measure it differently.
This response is only half-joking. The official poverty measure used by federal agencies in the US is a poor representation of material insecurity and deprivation.
Logged
mileslunn
YaBB God
Posts: 4,081
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #6 on:
November 21, 2019, 01:05:46 AM »
I actually think GAI is best way to reduce it as it gives the poor money so you can cut a lot of the bureaucracy and duplication for social assistance. Also any money you give the poor, they will spend it in the economy which helps grow the economy overall creating a multiplier effect thus more jobs and more tax revenue.
Logged
Balsanator03
Rookie
Posts: 37
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #7 on:
May 29, 2020, 09:19:45 PM »
Expand public housing with incentives.
If more public housing is built nationwide with the incentive to bring homeless off the streets or the impoverished by setting the monthly income to $250 per month, and a requirement being to get a job, people can have a better life and poverty and homelessness decrease tenfold.
Logged
Rover
Rookie
Posts: 163
Political Matrix
E: 0.18, S: -4.42
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #8 on:
May 30, 2020, 07:40:22 AM »
Through education, both academic and vocational training. College fees need to be subsidized and dealt with.
Reform the housing sector, and perhaps adopt the Singaporean housing model in cities that are struggling, i.e. San Francisco, Boston, Chicago. Markets have clearly failed and rents are ridiculously high in many cities throughout the nation.
Reform healthcare and make sure everyone is insured. We can learn something from our neighbors in Canada.
Healthcare, college loans, and rents are eating much of the average millennium salary.
Logged
Blairite
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 7,308
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #9 on:
May 30, 2020, 10:48:40 PM »
Negative income tax, zoning reform, education reform, baby bonds, making higher education more affordable (but actually), single-payer healthcare, criminal justice reform, targeted infrastructure investment, etc.
Logged
parochial boy
parochial_boy
YaBB God
Posts: 3,824
Political Matrix
E: -8.38, S: -6.78
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #10 on:
May 31, 2020, 08:37:53 AM »
Quote from: Trends are real, and I f**king hate it on October 30, 2019, 02:15:22 PM
We all know what reduces poverty. Only one thing has ever successfully done so anywhere in the history of the world. It's called redistribution.
Yep, but people will do anything they can to avoid admitting that fact. Including arguing that the failures of neoliberalism are in fact the failures of an
insufficient level
of neoliberalism. Intellectually, it's the equivalent of refusing to recognise that the USSR's Communism was failing in the 1980s.
Logged
pbrower2a
Atlas Star
Posts: 24,493
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #11 on:
February 13, 2021, 11:23:31 AM »
1. Stronger trade unions. Unionized workers get better pay and working conditions, but also get better opportunities for their children. For kids whose parents are in the same occupations, the union workers' kids fare better in school, getting better grades and being less likely to drop out... and to go further with their formal schooling.
2. More subsidies for formal education. If education is about as expensive as a hobby (which is about what it was in the 1970's at land-grant universities), then people are less likely to quit for reasons of cost... or compromising their education to work in menial jobs. It's hard to see what college students learn from working in fast-food places, dollar stores or convenience stores... the people who need such work most as a long-term career are typically poor people with little education and few skills.
3. Drug rehab. That should be obvious.
4. Promote the establishment of high-tech industry in what are now cities in economic decline. Just think of Detroit, which when the automobile industry was so important attracted talented and hard-working people much as Silicon Valley does today. The auto industry isn't as big a share of the economy anymore, and it has dispersed heavily from southeastern Michigan. I could give plenty of other examples.
It is a terrible idea to have economic activity concentrated in a few high-cost areas. Need I tell you about Ohio?
Logged
khuzifenq
Jr. Member
Posts: 1,514
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #12 on:
February 22, 2021, 03:46:14 PM »
Quote from: pbrower2a on February 13, 2021, 11:23:31 AM
2. More subsidies for formal education. If education is about as expensive as a hobby (which is about what it was in the 1970's at land-grant universities), then people are less likely to quit for reasons of cost... or compromising their education to work in menial jobs. It's hard to see what college students learn from working in fast-food places, dollar stores or convenience stores... the people who need such work most as a long-term career are typically poor people with little education and few skills.
https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/who-cares-about-the-ivy-league?
Quote
We need to question the importance of matching in our society. Tyler Cowen makes a good case in his book The Complacent Class that America has over-indexed on sorting and stratification in our society. There’s probably diminishing returns to putting all the top people in one room or on one team. It means ideas spread around less, and the top people have less of a chance to educate others. It’s like a gifted-and-talented program for all of society, but instead of one hour a day it’s forever, and instead of just extracting the nerds it extracts the rich kids too.
And there’s a strong possibility that our obsession with matching has negative side effects — when all the talented and rich people befriend and marry all the other talented and rich people, the rest of society is left to sort of fend for itself. What’s more, even the commentariat doesn’t seem to realize what a problem this is, possibly because so many of us went to those top schools too.
A creeping, toxic elitism
I don’t want to veer too far into cultural hand-waving here, but it seems like obsession with the Ivy League is a symptom of a creeping, toxic elitism that has permeated American society over the last four decades. We’re obsessed with high-status winner-take-all jobs. Our economy is dominated by superstar companies. The cult of Hollywood celebrities may have given way to the cult of Instagram influencers and YouTube stars, but it’s still all about the glittering few. Even the people who spend all day yelling about Elon Musk on Twitter are still spending all day…thinking about Elon Musk. It’s as if the inequality of income and wealth is mirrored in a general inequality of status, where only a few people and institutions matter and everyone else is left to watch the glitterati from the cheap seats.
I don’t know how we reverse this trend. I don’t know how the everyperson becomes central to our culture and our policy and our visions of our own lives again. Maybe redistribution will do the trick.
But I think one small piece of it is for the commentariat (and that includes me) to focus less on the Harvards and Stanfords of the world, and more on the Cal State Long Beaches and the SUNY Stony Brooks.
Already I like what the Biden administration is doing, focusing more resources on HBCUs and community colleges. Perhaps the old man is onto something.
Logged
Egotistic Egoist / Materialistic Materialist
John Dule
Concerned Citizen
Posts: 8,458
Political Matrix
E: 6.57, S: -7.50
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #13 on:
February 23, 2021, 05:08:56 AM »
Quote from: parochial boy on May 31, 2020, 08:37:53 AM
Quote from: Trends are real, and I f**king hate it on October 30, 2019, 02:15:22 PM
We all know what reduces poverty. Only one thing has ever successfully done so anywhere in the history of the world. It's called redistribution.
Yep, but people will do anything they can to avoid admitting that fact. Including arguing that the failures of neoliberalism are in fact the failures of an
insufficient level
of neoliberalism. Intellectually, it's the equivalent of refusing to recognise that the USSR's Communism was failing in the 1980s.
The word "neoliberal" has, in the past 40 years, been applied to everyone from Milton Friedman to Kamala Harris. Its meaning has effectively been lost to time.
Logged
parochial boy
parochial_boy
YaBB God
Posts: 3,824
Political Matrix
E: -8.38, S: -6.78
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #14 on:
February 23, 2021, 06:30:51 AM »
«
Edited:
February 23, 2021, 06:46:05 AM
by
parochial boy »
Quote from: Billionaires are heckin cute and valid on February 23, 2021, 05:08:56 AM
Quote from: parochial boy on May 31, 2020, 08:37:53 AM
Quote from: Trends are real, and I f**king hate it on October 30, 2019, 02:15:22 PM
We all know what reduces poverty. Only one thing has ever successfully done so anywhere in the history of the world. It's called redistribution.
Yep, but people will do anything they can to avoid admitting that fact. Including arguing that the failures of neoliberalism are in fact the failures of an
insufficient level
of neoliberalism. Intellectually, it's the equivalent of refusing to recognise that the USSR's Communism was failing in the 1980s.
The word "neoliberal" has, in the past 40 years, been applied to everyone from Milton Friedman to Kamala Harris. Its meaning has effectively been lost to time.
That's only partially true. Word's have meaning because people have a shared understanding of what they mean. The fact that it is thrown out at every possibility may mean that it has a rather imprecise meaning, but that applies to basically every political concept. The fundamental principle of the ideology - namely the perspective that the rules of free market competition should be introduced as widely as possible, still holds true and is still the basic understanding that people have of it. And more importantly, any honest discussion about politics has to accept that this is a guiding ideology that many people follow.
In that respect, it's no different to any other ideological label - but I don't go around arguing that the words "socialism" or "fascism" don't mean anything just because some people are inclined to use them as a catch all to refer to things that they don't like.
Logged
215 till I die
slimey56
Rookie
Posts: 185
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #15 on:
March 06, 2021, 11:55:46 PM »
Quote from: pbrower2a on February 13, 2021, 11:23:31 AM
1. Stronger trade unions. Unionized workers get better pay and working conditions, but also get better opportunities for their children. For kids whose parents are in the same occupations, the union workers' kids fare better in school, getting better grades and being less likely to drop out... and to go further with their formal schooling.
2. More subsidies for formal education. If education is about as expensive as a hobby (which is about what it was in the 1970's at land-grant universities), then people are less likely to quit for reasons of cost... or compromising their education to work in menial jobs. It's hard to see what college students learn from working in fast-food places, dollar stores or convenience stores... the people who need such work most as a long-term career are typically poor people with little education and few skills.
3. Drug rehab. That should be obvious.
4. Promote the establishment of high-tech industry in what are now cities in economic decline. Just think of Detroit, which when the automobile industry was so important attracted talented and hard-working people much as Silicon Valley does today. The auto industry isn't as big a share of the economy anymore, and it has dispersed heavily from southeastern Michigan. I could give plenty of other examples.
It is a terrible idea to have economic activity concentrated in a few high-cost areas. Need I tell you about Ohio?
In addition, stronger unions even help laborers in non-union businesses. Labor strength offers an incentive for non-union employers to pre-emptively offer benefits+a fair wage to placate workers from organizing themselves.
Logged
georgelee
Newbie
Posts: 2
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #16 on:
March 21, 2021, 04:34:53 AM »
Quote from: Republican Left on October 30, 2019, 11:53:42 AM
How would you reduce the poverty rate, specifically in the U.S but answers for other countries are welcome? How do you think poverty in other countries is different to that America?
Welfare trusts play great role under this regard. We should be the one solid part of these trusts.
Logged
Red Velvet
Jr. Member
Posts: 600
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #17 on:
April 05, 2021, 12:30:07 PM »
Quote from: God-Empress Stacey I of House Abrams on October 30, 2019, 02:15:22 PM
We all know what reduces poverty. Only one thing has ever successfully done so anywhere in the history of the world. It's called redistribution.
Yup. But not just that.
So I would add investment in public infrastructure as well. Assuring the poorer have access to universal healthcare, free public education of quality, that kind of basic stuff.
Logged
America Needs Kali
Frodo
Atlas Star
Posts: 20,736
Re: What would reduce the poverty rate?
«
Reply #18 on:
April 07, 2021, 06:09:48 PM »
More broadly shared economic growth.
Logged
Pages:
[
1
]
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
-----------------------------
=> 2024 U.S. Presidential Election
===> 2024 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls
===> 2024 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls
=> 2020 U.S. Presidential Election
===> 2020 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls
===> 2020 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls
=> U.S. Presidential Election Results
===> 2016 U.S. Presidential Election Results
===> 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Results
===> 2008 U.S. Presidential Election Results
===> 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results
===> 2000 U.S. Presidential Election Results
=> Presidential Election Process
===> Polling
=> Presidential Election Trends
=> Election What-ifs?
===> Past Election What-ifs (US)
===> Alternative Elections
===> International What-ifs
-----------------------------
Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion
-----------------------------
=> Gubernatorial/State Elections
===> 2022 Gubernatorial Election Polls
===> 2021 & Odd Year Gubernatorial Election Polls
=> Congressional Elections
===> 2022 Senate & House Election Polls
=> International Elections
=> Election Predictions
-----------------------------
About this Site
-----------------------------
===> How To
=> The Atlas
-----------------------------
General Discussion
-----------------------------
=> Constitution and Law
=> Religion & Philosophy
=> History
===> Alternative History
-----------------------------
General Politics
-----------------------------
=> U.S. General Discussion
=> Political Geography & Demographics
=> International General Discussion
=> Economics
=> Individual Politics
=> Political Debate
===> Political Essays & Deliberation
===> Book Reviews and Discussion
-----------------------------
Election Archive
-----------------------------
=> Election Archive
===> 2018 Senatorial Election Polls
===> 2018 Gubernatorial Election Polls
===> 2016 U.S. Presidential Election
===> 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls
===> 2016 Senatorial Election Polls
===> 2016 Gubernatorial Election Polls
===> 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls
===> 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls
=====> 2014 House Election Polls
=====> 2014 Senatorial Election Polls
===> 2012 Elections
=====> 2012 Senatorial Election Polls
=====> 2012 House Election Polls
=====> 2012 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls
=====> 2012 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls
=====> 2012 Gubernatorial Election Polls
===> 2010 Elections
=====> 2010 House Election Polls
=====> 2010 Senatorial Election Polls
=====> 2010 Gubernatorial Election Polls
===> 2008 Elections
=====> 2008 Senatorial Election Polls
=====> 2008 Gubernatorial Election Polls
=====> 2008 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign
=====> 2008 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls
=====> 2008 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls
===> 2006 Elections
=====> 2006 Senatorial Election Polls
=====> 2006 Gubernatorial Election Polls
===> 2004 U.S. Presidential Election
=====> 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign
=====> 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Polls
===> Town Hall
===> Survivor
===> 2020 Gubernatorial Election Polls
===> 2020 Senate & House Election Polls
-----------------------------
Forum Community
-----------------------------
=> Forum Community
===> Forum Community Election Match-ups
=> Election and History Games
===> Mock Parliament
=> Off-topic Board
-----------------------------
Atlas Fantasy Elections
-----------------------------
=> Atlas Fantasy Elections
===> Voting Booth
=> Atlas Fantasy Government
===> Constitutional Convention
===> Regional Governments
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
Terms of Service
-
DMCA Agent and Policy
-
Privacy Policy and Cookies
Powered by SMF 1.1.21
|
SMF © 2015, Simple Machines
Page created in 0.042 seconds with 11 queries.
Loading...