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mileslunn
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« on: November 20, 2019, 02:28:39 AM »

Considering how disliked Corbyn is, I think BoJo has a chance to win a yuge majority so best case Tory scenario

Tory      415
Labour  158
SNP      37
LibDem 17
PC         4
Green    1

While best case Labour I show the following

Tory      308
Labour  271
SNP      25
LibDem 24
PC        3
Green   1

So Tories winning most seats pretty much a near certainty unless there is a major screwup, but I believe Corbyn's unpopularity is too entrenched for Labour to win most seats.  I would say about a 90% chance of a Tory majority and a 10% chance of hung parliament with Conservatives being largest party.  I believe a 400+ seat majority for Tories more likely than a hung parliament.
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2019, 04:14:42 PM »

The polls are if anything getting closer, rather than the opposite. So any prediction the Tories will get more seats than in their 1983 landslide (when they were c16% ahead nationally) looks.....brave.

Depends a lot on youth turnout and how much of the Liberal Democrat vote holds up.  A decline in Liberal Democrats seems to result in 2/3 going Labour and 1/3 Tory so if LibDems stay above 15% bad news for Labour, but if under 12% helps them.  A lot of polls are going on younger voter turnout around 55% so if younger voters like 2015 don't show up, I think Labour likely will get less than 200 seats and Tories over 380.  If however younger voters show up in similar numbers to 2017 which based on registration seems quite possible, than probably a Tory lead of 6-8 points if things don't change, but could get even closer.  In this case, Tories right on the line for majority although I think applying a uniform swing is risky.  With Brexit being main issue, I think a lot of Labour seats that went over 60% leave will see much bigger swing towards the Tories and you could even see some seats Labour won by 20 points flip.  On other hand those with younger demographics and over 60% remain, I could easily see Labour holding onto many marginals that on paper may look vulnerable.

Also there is the tactical voting question too.  Are Liberal Democrats around 13-14% nationwide or is this heavily concentrated in London and other areas of South where many Labour voters will tactically vote Liberal Democrat while in much of the rest of the country are struggling to hit 5%.  If nationwide, good news for Tories, if more concentrated could make race closer than expected.
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2019, 05:28:25 PM »

I'd caution against assuming a further Lib Dem collapse automatically helps Labour. It's likely just as much of their support comes from disaffected Tories rather than disaffected Labourites. It's also the case that the former are probably more important when it comes to winning seats.

The polls that compare 2017 to current vote so far show more Liberal Democrats going Labour than Tory but of those remaining may be right.  Likewise of Liberal Democrat gains, more came from Labour than Tories but you did get some Tory remainers particularly in London area switching.  That being said Tories are more or less polling at same level they had in 2017, while Labour is a full 8-11 points below 2017 levels so Tories have much greater voter retention than does Labour.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2019, 10:31:36 PM »

Tactical voting will make it hard to predict the number of seats that the Lib Dems take. I wouldn’t be shocked if they do better in terms of seats than expected while also doing worse than expected in the popular vote.

Very possible although I also think Liberal Democrat coalition this time is different than in 2010.  Places like Somerset, Devon, and Cornwall I think will stay Tory.  Those areas are older, rural, and mostly voted leave so I don't see many if any at all flipping back.  On other hand in London there is a lot of potential and so if any big gains, while problem be in London or areas in London commuter belt.  I would say Tory seats that voted over 60% remain are ones they are most likely to pickup while likewise Labour seats that went over 60% leave are likely to fall unless Labour won by a very large margin in 2017, but even ones where Labour won by 15-20 points in 2017, if over 60% leave they could flip.
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2019, 06:45:43 PM »

Using electoral calculus and guessing percentage vote, I get the following

Tories: 340
Labour: 228
LibDem 15
SNP 44
PC 4
Green 1

Best case Tory scenario

Tories: 367
Labour: 206

Best case Labour scenario

Tories 316
Labour 252

I think Tories could go as high as 380 seats if things go right from them while Labour as low as 180 seats.  For best case Labour scenario, that sounds about right.  I think chances of Labour beating the 262 they got in 2017 is close to nil while Tories at worse will perform just below 2017 in seats. 
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2019, 12:39:19 PM »

Tory majority of 38,

Tories         343 seats
Labour       226 seats
SNP           43 seats
LibDems    14 seats
PC             4 seats
Greens      1 seat

Popular vote

Tories       43%
Labour     34%
LibDems   12%
SNP          3%
Brexit       3%
Greens      2%
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