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Sir Mohamed
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« on: October 28, 2019, 10:21:05 AM »

You all know, Mr. Trump was strongly pro choice for a long time and I think he actually doesn't care about abortion much. What if he ran his whole campaign as he actually did with the only exception of being pro choice? His signature issues still remain immigration, trade and nativism. Does it really change that much?

I mean, the GOP base has already been exposed as complete hypocrites, as they're cheering a dude who paid off pornstars, had 3 wives that he cheated multiple times and doesn't go to church.
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2019, 10:22:53 AM »

He definitely would not have won the general and probably not the nomination either.
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2019, 02:48:44 PM »

YUGE 3rd party defections. Trump tanks big in the South especially.

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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2019, 05:32:13 PM »
« Edited: October 31, 2019, 10:43:21 AM by Xing »

If Trump had still managed to win the nomination (uncertain), hot take: Republicans wouldn't have cared. They'd rationalize it by saying that he was "still more likely to pick pro-life judges" or something like that. The idea that abortion is the only reason why Republicans are even competitive with Democrats really doesn't hold much water.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2019, 05:44:09 PM »

He wouldn't have won the nomination.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2019, 08:45:13 PM »

I would have voted Cruz, had this happened. I doubt Trump would carry the South in the primaries.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2019, 09:18:37 PM »

Congratulations, President Benjamin Solomon Carson.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2019, 10:13:27 PM »

If he says he’ll appoint liberal justices, no way does he get the nomination. The reason GOP voters are such hypocrites is because of the permanence of SCOTUS Justices and rulings.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2019, 10:26:51 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2019, 02:35:09 AM »

If Trump had still managed to win the nomination (uncertain), hot take: Republicans wouldn't have cared. They'd rationalize it by saying that he was "still more likely to pick pro-choice judges" or something like that. The idea that abortion is the only reason why Republicans are even competitive with Democrats really doesn't hold much water.

Yup, I agree on that. I mean, who 10-15 years ago thought the base would cheer someone who paid off pornstarts, cheated his wives, defrauded charity, stabs our allies in the back and supports Russia and who makes record deficits. They didn't care he donated to Dems and Clintons just a few years earlier. The cult is based on nativism and cultural wars. Or just owning the libs.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2019, 11:50:49 AM »

If Trump had still managed to win the nomination (uncertain), hot take: Republicans wouldn't have cared. They'd rationalize it by saying that he was "still more likely to pick pro-choice judges" or something like that.

Sure, Republican voters would have rationalized it in a Clinton vs. Trump binary choice.  But being pro-choice would have seriously jeopardized Trump's chances of winning the nomination.  The primary would have been very different.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2019, 06:00:28 AM »

My guess is that if Trump is nominated he gets the exact same result, plus maybe he flips NH on top of that (but very unlikely)

As for the nomination, who knows? I think he still wins at the very least a narrow plurality of delegates, almost tied with Cruz. However I guess at the following contested convention Cruz gets nominated over Trump, but Trump being nominated would also not be impossible.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2019, 04:36:46 PM »

For those who don't know, during his debate prep, Flynn actually told Trump to come out as pro-choice to throw Clinton off guard, so this is not as unlikely as you might think.
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2019, 05:42:57 PM »

Then Ted would've been the nominee and likely would be our president today. That or no one would care and he'd still win because of his economic/job policies.
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2019, 11:07:27 PM »

You all know, Mr. Trump was strongly pro choice for a long time and I think he actually doesn't care about abortion much. What if he ran his whole campaign as he actually did with the only exception of being pro choice? His signature issues still remain immigration, trade and nativism. Does it really change that much?

I mean, the GOP base has already been exposed as complete hypocrites, as they're cheering a dude who paid off pornstars, had 3 wives that he cheated multiple times and doesn't go to church.

Dude, youre so out of touch, the Christian Right is dead.  And he did those things back when he is a Democrat.  People deserve forgiveness, Jesus hung out with prostitutes as well.
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2019, 12:22:40 AM »

You all know, Mr. Trump was strongly pro choice for a long time and I think he actually doesn't care about abortion much. What if he ran his whole campaign as he actually did with the only exception of being pro choice? His signature issues still remain immigration, trade and nativism. Does it really change that much?

I mean, the GOP base has already been exposed as complete hypocrites, as they're cheering a dude who paid off pornstars, had 3 wives that he cheated multiple times and doesn't go to church.

Dude, youre so out of touch, the Christian Right is dead.  And he did those things back when he is a Democrat.  People deserve forgiveness, Jesus hung out with prostitutes as well.
Bullsh**t, had Obama been found to be paying off pornstars, we wouldn’t hear the end of it.
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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2019, 10:53:07 PM »

You all know, Mr. Trump was strongly pro choice for a long time and I think he actually doesn't care about abortion much. What if he ran his whole campaign as he actually did with the only exception of being pro choice? His signature issues still remain immigration, trade and nativism. Does it really change that much?

I mean, the GOP base has already been exposed as complete hypocrites, as they're cheering a dude who paid off pornstars, had 3 wives that he cheated multiple times and doesn't go to church.

Dude, youre so out of touch, the Christian Right is dead.  And he did those things back when he is a Democrat.  People deserve forgiveness, Jesus hung out with prostitutes as well.
Bullsh**t, had Obama been found to be paying off pornstars, we wouldn’t hear the end of it.

I wouldn't care less, just as I wouldn't care less if Bill paid them off (which we know he certainly did)...you still strawmanned the whole basis of the argument.
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