HB 20-26: Fetal Remains Are Human Remains Act (Failed)
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« on: October 31, 2019, 08:03:41 PM »
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Fetal Remains Are Human Remains Act

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To treat fetal remains with the same dignity as any human that passes.

Be it enacted in the House of Representatives and the Senate of the Republic of Atlasia assembled,

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Section 1: Findings

1. Congress recognizes that fetal tissue belongs to a human whose body is separate from the mother's, and should not be treated as medical waste.
2. Congress recognizes that women should have the opportunity to properly mourn for the loss of their child.

Section 2: Proper Handling of Fetal Remains

1. All parts of fetal tissue collected during abortion procedures, miscarriages, or stillbirths in the Republic of Atlasia must be handled in the same manner as human remains.
2. Any process in which these remains are treated as medical waste and disposed of as such is banned.
3. Fetal tissue obtained during an abortion procedure, miscarriage, or stillbirth may only be disposed of in the form of cremation, donation for scientific research, or donation to an educational institution with a written record of the mother's wishes obtained prior to the procedure.
4. The mother may request a blood relative of the child to be granted custody of the remains, however said person must be present and acknowledgement of this must be obtained in writing prior to the procedure.
5. If the mother refuses to take custody of the remains and there is no other person who can legally be given custody of the remains, the woman may sign over the remains to the clinic, or any religious, community, research, or educational organization authorized to store the remains or perform burials. If disposed of, the organization granted legal custody must dispose of the remains either in an approved permanent storage facility or in a burial site with other unclaimed remains.
6. Following the procedure, the remains may not be retained as security for unpaid expenses, particularly where it has been kept without authorization and payment is demanded as a condition precedent to its release.

Section 3: Implementation

1. This bill will take effect 90 days after being signed into law.

Sponsor: fhtagn
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2019, 08:57:32 PM »

In a nutshell, this requires fetal remains to be disposed of in the same manner that we dispose of human remains, which admittedly, there are some changes that I made to this that I don't 100% agree with doing, but to keep it consistent, those changes were made.

No civilized society should treat the bodies and parts of a baby as "medical waste".
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2019, 12:27:34 PM »

Honestly, no matter how anyone sees abortion, I think this is probably a necessary bill. Fetal remains are definitely different than the average medical waste and should be disposed of properly.
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2019, 09:56:33 PM »

Also worth pointing out in this that it doesn't only apply to abortions but to stillbirths and miscarriages as well. It also provides a wide range of options for what one can do with the remains, as long as it isn't treated like medical waste.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2019, 11:25:35 PM »

This is just trying to waste the House's time.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2019, 11:05:57 AM »

This is just trying to waste the House's time.

Sad to see you think respecting human life is a waste of time.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2019, 12:28:41 PM »

This is just trying to waste the House's time.
Really its a matter of disposing waste properly from a human. Realistically, health standards should be risen to what it is with other waste.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2019, 12:24:48 AM »

Since a new House has been sworn in, does anyone else have any questions/comments/concerns?
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2019, 08:49:45 PM »

I'm going to assume no one here actually has an issue with this since no one has debated.

So motioning for a final vote.
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2019, 07:12:54 PM »

Final vote.

72 hours.
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2019, 07:56:06 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2019, 08:52:02 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2019, 01:25:17 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2019, 07:38:51 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2019, 03:53:28 PM »

NAY
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2019, 02:59:30 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2019, 04:54:02 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2019, 06:01:04 PM »

I want to say I'm surprised by the vote, but I'm really not. All this was doing in my view is ensuring responsibility when it comes to the disposal of human waste. It doesn't determine anything on the issue of abortion but it looks like my colleagues are taking it that way. Fair enough.
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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2019, 09:02:59 PM »

So why did YE and Thumb miss this vote?
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2019, 09:04:01 PM »

Abstain FTR.

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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2019, 09:04:56 PM »

Fails 3-4.
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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2019, 09:40:39 PM »

Abstain
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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2019, 02:03:40 AM »

Good to see all these people who were too lazy to debate voting it down with no explanation for why.

High quality participation.
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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2019, 09:55:01 AM »

Good to see all these people who were too lazy to debate voting it down with no explanation for why.

High quality participation.

You vote against bills without an explanation all the time
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