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Question: If Wexit occurs, is admitting Alberta and Saskatchewan as states in exchange for admitting Puerto Rico and DC a politically viable deal?
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Author Topic: If Wexit occurs, is admitting AB + SK for PR + DC a politically viable deal?  (Read 2772 times)
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« on: October 22, 2019, 07:42:17 AM »

Suppose the new Liberal minority government has a breakdown with the Prairie provinces and Wexit somehow occurs. Alberta and Saskatchewan quickly find they can't go it alone and ask the US to admit them as states. Presumably, if admitted, they would vote Republican, albeit by lower numbers than they vote Conservative.

Historically, states were admitted in pairs to balance interests. Puerto Rico and DC would likely both vote Democratic, meaning they would likely off-set AB and SK in the Senate. Alberta and Puerto Rico have essentially the same population and SK has only about 300k more people than DC, but Dems could conceivably pick off congressional districts based around Calgary/Edmonton/Regina while the GOP would have a hard time winning any CDs in PR or DC. This means the change to the composition of the House is very minor as well.

Ignoring the improbable events to get us to that point, it seems like a pretty fair trade to me.
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2019, 09:30:17 AM »

To be honest, you are delusional if you think Alberta and Saskatchewan would vote R if in the US.

You don't think provinces which vote 70% Conservative might vote ~55% R? I guess you'd take the deal then, right?
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2019, 09:39:38 AM »

Last time we did anything similar to this, we were a union divided between slave states and free states, and admitted new states only on the basis of preserving the delicate balance between the two.

It didn't end well.... 

Well, we kinda did the same thing with AK and HI, only they ended up voting opposite of what was expected.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2019, 12:32:15 PM »

Kind of? But Puerto Rico has yet to demonstrate it wants statehood.
Puerto Rico has had two referendums in the past decade, both with statehood winning.
Neither referendum had a majority of voters favoring statehood thanks to boycotts of those nonbinding referendums by opponents.

I don't understand why we care about boycotts/turnout in statehood referenda but not for virtually any other type of referenda.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2019, 10:36:24 AM »

This is a very strange and delusional thread. If Ottawa is seen as too distant and too prone to consistently place the concerns of a culturally very different Central Canada over Western interests, what exactly do you think this would make Washington? Please stop embarrassing yourselves with your ignorant fantasies.

Why are you the way that you are, Al?
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