If Wexit occurs, is admitting AB + SK for PR + DC a politically viable deal?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 19, 2024, 09:11:48 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  Political Debate (Moderator: Torie)
  If Wexit occurs, is admitting AB + SK for PR + DC a politically viable deal?
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2]
Poll
Question: If Wexit occurs, is admitting Alberta and Saskatchewan as states in exchange for admitting Puerto Rico and DC a politically viable deal?
#1
Yes (D)
 
#2
Yes (R)
 
#3
Yes (I/O)
 
#4
No (D)
 
#5
No (R)
 
#6
No (I/O)
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 23

Author Topic: If Wexit occurs, is admitting AB + SK for PR + DC a politically viable deal?  (Read 2768 times)
RI
realisticidealist
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,760


Political Matrix
E: 0.39, S: 2.61

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2019, 12:32:15 PM »

Kind of? But Puerto Rico has yet to demonstrate it wants statehood.
Puerto Rico has had two referendums in the past decade, both with statehood winning.
Neither referendum had a majority of voters favoring statehood thanks to boycotts of those nonbinding referendums by opponents.

I don't understand why we care about boycotts/turnout in statehood referenda but not for virtually any other type of referenda.
Logged
7,052,770
Harry
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 35,393
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2019, 12:46:09 PM »

Kind of? But Puerto Rico has yet to demonstrate it wants statehood.
Puerto Rico has had two referendums in the past decade, both with statehood winning.
Neither referendum had a majority of voters favoring statehood thanks to boycotts of those nonbinding referendums by opponents.
That's their own fault. In the Developed World, you don't get to boycott an election and then claim it doesn't count.

If Trump knows he's about to lose and tells his supporters not to vote, and then claims the resulting Democratic landslide isn't valid, should we listen?
Logged
Santander
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,924
United Kingdom


Political Matrix
E: 4.00, S: 2.61


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2019, 03:43:00 PM »

Kind of? But Puerto Rico has yet to demonstrate it wants statehood.
Puerto Rico has had two referendums in the past decade, both with statehood winning.
Neither referendum had a majority of voters favoring statehood thanks to boycotts of those nonbinding referendums by opponents.
That's their own fault. In the Developed World, you don't get to boycott an election and then claim it doesn't count.

If Trump knows he's about to lose and tells his supporters not to vote, and then claims the resulting Democratic landslide isn't valid, should we listen?

Presidential elections are binding. (notwithstanding various electoral college technicalities and the like) A nonbinding referendum is, by definition, purely an exercise of political expression/temperature-taking. A boycott is a perfectly valid form of participation in such an exercise.
Logged
True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
Ernest
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 42,156
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2019, 11:30:05 AM »

Kind of? But Puerto Rico has yet to demonstrate it wants statehood.
Puerto Rico has had two referendums in the past decade, both with statehood winning.
Neither referendum had a majority of voters favoring statehood thanks to boycotts of those nonbinding referendums by opponents.
That's their own fault. In the Developed World, you don't get to boycott an election and then claim it doesn't count.

They weren't counting regardless of whether they participated in a PNP publicity stunt.
Logged
Filuwaúrdjan
Realpolitik
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 67,678
United Kingdom


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2019, 07:53:53 AM »

This is a very strange and delusional thread. If Ottawa is seen as too distant and too prone to consistently place the concerns of a culturally very different Central Canada over Western interests, what exactly do you think this would make Washington? Please stop embarrassing yourselves with your ignorant fantasies.
Logged
McNukes™ #NYCMMWasAHero
Nuke
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 854
United States


Political Matrix
E: 5.23, S: 8.09

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2019, 05:09:48 PM »

I would prefer not to admit the District of Columbia on the basis that it is the federal capital; on the other hand, yes, I would call this a viable compromise.
Logged
Dr. MB
MB
Atlas Politician
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,839
Libyan Arab Jamahiriya



Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2019, 05:41:42 PM »

Both new states would probably vote Dem so...no.
Logged
RI
realisticidealist
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,760


Political Matrix
E: 0.39, S: 2.61

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2019, 10:36:24 AM »

This is a very strange and delusional thread. If Ottawa is seen as too distant and too prone to consistently place the concerns of a culturally very different Central Canada over Western interests, what exactly do you think this would make Washington? Please stop embarrassing yourselves with your ignorant fantasies.

Why are you the way that you are, Al?
Logged
Grassroots
Grassr00ts
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,741
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 2.09

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2019, 04:19:42 PM »

AB and SK are most similar to Minnesota politically, for what I've seen. This does not include oil influence/presence.   
Logged
Indy Texas
independentTX
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,272
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.52, S: -3.48

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2019, 12:40:44 AM »

Alberta & Saskatchewan would both vote Republican if they had long traditions of being in the U.S., but if they were cut out and annexed now, both would vote Democratic, if only to protect their healthcare systems. No one in Canada, not even conservatives, would trade their healthcare system for the American one, and "American-style healthcare" is often used as a scare term in Canada.

Isnt healthcare run though at the provincial level , I can bet if a deal was made to make them states they would get to keep that.



Their prescription drug prices would skyrocket.
Logged
Pages: 1 [2]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.039 seconds with 14 queries.