Bolivia elections - 2019-2020 - Arce Victory

[PSOL]

Lol I am so owned
Seriously, is there any other source for the claim that Añez is attempting a military coup?

I’ll try and find a news article on this that is definitive. Most I’ve heard and seen is from editorials and twitter personalities.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

I won't forget all the "highly sensible and rational" liberals defending the coup here in a hurry.

Me2

#PrayForBolivia

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

New Archbishop of La Paz today. He's from an 80% indigenous area, went to seminary in Cochabamba, and was previously bishop of an almost entirely indigenous mission area up in the Andes. Pretty sure the previous guy supported Añez's (initial) coup.

Not that it's likely to change anything, but it does make one wonder if a message is being sent.

[PSOL]

Lol I am so owned
Seriously, is there any other source for the claim that Añez is attempting a military coup?

I’ll try and find a news article on this that is definitive. Most I’ve heard and seen is from editorials and twitter personalities.

Most sources I’ve seen that are not political editorializations or newsletters from socialist groups aren’t reporting on the political happenings of Bolivia. Still, what I am seeing is that the government has still refused to let an election be held even as the Congress of Bolivia and grassroots organizations demands it to be held in a timely manner.

Such groups include farmers organizations as seen in this editorialized piece here

[Velasco]

I've read the military is pressing the MAS controlled Senate to approve some promotions (otherwise those men in arms will promote themselves) , Jeanine Añez is surrounded by corruption scandals and even Carlos Mesa says that she's bringing the country to collapse. The situation of Bolivia under this illegitimate president is deeply disturbing, to say the least

[SInNYC]

Well well, it turns out that the original OAS report that claimed fraud in vote counting was based on faulty statistical analysis - see https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/world/americas/bolivia-election-evo-morales.html.
If you dont remember, this was the one that made Morales agree to a new election, and an eventual coup leading to  right-wing dictator Anez.

Now the OAS is saying its moot - "Statistics don’t prove or disprove fraud. Hard evidence like falsified statements of polls and hidden I.T. structures do. And that is what we found". And the article says that the OAS consultant who did the work "did not share his methods or data with the authors of [this new study], despite repeated requests".

[CumbrianLefty]

Makes what happened - and the almost gleeful collusion of so many in it - all the more shameful.

Some of us are not going to forget all this in a hurry.

[PSOL]

https://twitter.com/americaelige/status/1271529273937899520?s=21

[ChrisMcDanielWasRobbed]

I think Anez will win.

[CumbrianLefty]

Thank you for your input.

(though you maybe meant not win, but "win"?)

[ChrisMcDanielWasRobbed]

Thank you for your input.

(though you maybe meant not win, but "win"?)

It might be rigged for Luis Arce.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Thank you for your input.

(though you maybe meant not win, but "win"?)

It might be rigged for Luis Arce.

Áñez is going to rig it for MAS?

[Velasco]

Merge please

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=340100.0

[Bakersfield Uber Alles]

Will it be an election or an election type event?

[PSOL]

Will it be an election or an election type event?

We’ll find out the day of the polls.

[Velasco]

There is a fresh poll with some 16,000 respondents, conducted by university organizations and some radio stations. It's apparently independent and possibly as reliable as you can get

Raw vote percentage (candidates over 1%)

Luis Arce (MAS) 29 2%

Carlos Mesa (CC) 19%

Luis Fernando Camacho (Creemos) 10.4%

Jeanine Añez 7.7%

Chi Hyun Chung (FPV) 3.2%

Jorge Quiroga (Libres 21) 2%

7.1 % will cast blank ballots; 10.6% opted for null votes; 9.8% don't know or don't answer

The estimation of valid votes is the following:

Arce 40.3%, Mesa 26.2%, Camacho 14 4%, Añez 10 6%, Chi Hyun Chung 4.4%, Quiroga 2.8%

Luis Arce and Carlos Mesa would qualify for a second round




https://www.la-razon.com/nacional/2020/09/16/encuesta-a-16-000-personas-en-el-pais-ratifica-a-luis-arce-como-posible-ganador-de-los-comicios/

[ChrisMcDanielWasRobbed]

I hope Añez wins.

[Lord Halifax]

The estimation of valid votes is the following:

Arce 40.3%, Mesa 26.2%, Camacho 14 4%, Añez 10 6%, Chi Hyun Chung 4.4%, Quiroga 2.8%

Luis Arce and Carlos Mesa would qualify for a second round

There wouldn't be a second round on those numbers since Arce is above 40% and more than 10 points ahead of Mesa.

[Crane]

Will it be an election or an election type event?

If Anez wins, the latter.

[ChrisMcDanielWasRobbed]

I think Añez will do way better than what the polls say and win.

[Velasco]

The estimation of valid votes is the following:

Arce 40.3%, Mesa 26.2%, Camacho 14 4%, Añez 10 6%, Chi Hyun Chung 4.4%, Quiroga 2.8%

Luis Arce and Carlos Mesa would qualify for a second round

There wouldn't be a second round on those numbers since Arce is above 40% and more than 10 points ahead of Mesa.

Right, I forgot that when posting. Thank you for the correction

I think Añez will do way better than what the polls say and win.

Your faith is worthy of a better cause, but hope is the last to die

[Crane]

I think Añez will do way better than what the polls say and win.

We got it the first three times you posted it.

[Lumine]

There's been rumors today that Añez is preparing to drop out of the race to give Mesa a better chance against Arce and MAS. It's been alleged the decision was taken, but nothing confirmed yet (wouldn't be really surprised if it didn't turn out to be true).

[Lumine]

It's been confirmed, Añez is dropping out.

[GALeftist]

I think Añez will do way better than what the polls say and win.

Liek dis if u cri evry tiem