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« Reply #100 on: February 28, 2020, 08:54:46 AM »

Time and time again, centrists, when forced to choose between socialism and fascism, pick fascism.
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« Reply #101 on: February 28, 2020, 06:38:36 PM »

Time and time again, centrists, when forced to choose between socialism and fascism, pick fascism.

Morales is in no way an actual socialist, or even particularly close to being one
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« Reply #102 on: February 28, 2020, 07:11:21 PM »

OK then, "left-populist"?
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« Reply #103 on: February 28, 2020, 08:47:27 PM »

Time and time again, centrists, when forced to choose between socialism and fascism, pick fascism.

Morales is in no way an actual socialist, or even particularly close to being one
And neither is the opposition fascist (or at least most of the opposition).
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« Reply #104 on: February 29, 2020, 10:03:46 AM »

Time and time again, centrists, when forced to choose between socialism and fascism, pick fascism.

Morales is in no way an actual socialist, or even particularly close to being one
And neither is the opposition fascist (or at least most of the opposition).

They staged a coup.
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« Reply #105 on: February 29, 2020, 10:54:08 AM »

I don't care if it's a coup if it's against a regime with dubious legitimacy (like Milošević regime at the time of 5. October Serbian democratic revolution).
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« Reply #106 on: February 29, 2020, 12:09:14 PM »

Morales had just fairly won an election, as opposed to trying to steal it as Milosovic did, so no.
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« Reply #107 on: February 29, 2020, 12:32:45 PM »

"Fair"?! Mysterious delays in counting, official results not matching results by independent observers...
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« Reply #108 on: March 01, 2020, 10:31:23 AM »


‘No evidence of fraud’ in Morales poll victory, say US researchers
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A row over the legitimacy of Bolivia’s longest-serving leader, Evo Morales, has been reignited after researchers in the US questioned allegations that fraud was used to help the country’s leader of 14 years win the last election.

Writing in the Washington Post, the researchers from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s election data and science lab have entered what has become a fraught debate about Morales’s legacy and whether he was forced to step down due to an attempt to manipulate the vote or, rather, pushed out as part of a military coup.

“There is not any statistical evidence of fraud that we can find,” wrote John Curiel and Jack R Williams, both from MIT, adding that the conclusions of an audit by the Organization of American States “would appear deeply flawed”.
So the only people contesting electoral fraud are the OAS, mired in connections with the American government, and local plantation and mining barons along with their “researchers“.
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« Reply #109 on: March 22, 2020, 12:58:27 PM »

The elections won't take place on May 3 due to the coronavirus epidemic, no new date has been set

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« Reply #110 on: March 22, 2020, 01:29:55 PM »

Do you think Jeanine Añez and those supporting her will take advantage of the coronavirus crisis to enforce an authoritarian way out?

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« Reply #111 on: March 22, 2020, 03:48:16 PM »

Oh God, now that's a terrifying thought.

Is there actually an outbreak in Bolivia, or are they just afraid one might come?
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« Reply #112 on: March 23, 2020, 01:05:56 AM »

Do you think Jeanine Añez and those supporting her will take advantage of the coronavirus crisis to enforce an authoritarian way out?

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Most presidents in the region (with the notable and surprising exception of Bolsonaro's total negligence) is getting more authoritarian by the day
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« Reply #113 on: March 23, 2020, 01:08:15 AM »
« Edited: March 23, 2020, 01:49:05 AM by ∀lex »

Oh God, now that's a terrifying thought.

Is there actually an outbreak in Bolivia, or are they just afraid one might come?

Only 27 confirmed cases and no deaths, but Bolivia's healthcare system has never been particularly good and I wouldn't be surprised if the actual numbers are quite a bit higher

But no serious outbreak
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« Reply #114 on: March 23, 2020, 05:22:28 AM »

Do you think Jeanine Añez and those supporting her will take advantage of the coronavirus crisis to enforce an authoritarian way out?

Most presidents in the region (with the notable and surprising exception of Bolsonaro's total negligence) is getting more authoritarian by the day

A friend from Argentina told me last night the government was thinking about implementining ''state of emergency as prophylaxis'', ehich is not very different from the ''state of alarm'' we have in Spain but anyway it's something we wouldn't have accepted naturally weeks before. But Alberto Fernández and Pedro Sánchez have the legitimacy to implement emergency measures, which is not the case of Jeanine Añez.

The implications of a state of rmergency enforced by a president with problems of legitimacy and the army are worrisome, to say the least. Hopefully the position of Lady Coup is not very consolidated

(Btw my friend told me governors are sidelining Bolsonaro)
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« Reply #115 on: March 24, 2020, 09:33:00 AM »

I won't forget all the "highly sensible and rational" liberals defending the coup here in a hurry.
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« Reply #116 on: April 03, 2020, 10:29:31 PM »

The Electoral Court proposed (on March 26, but I wasn't paying attention for obvious reasons) that the elections should take place between June 7 and September 6, as always Congress has to set the actual date
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« Reply #117 on: April 30, 2020, 03:05:51 PM »

Anez still the President & I wonder if she can somehow win the special election ?
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« Reply #118 on: April 30, 2020, 04:25:01 PM »

Anez still the President & I wonder if she can somehow win the special election ?

I sincerely hope not.
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« Reply #119 on: April 30, 2020, 04:36:43 PM »

Anez still the President & I wonder if she can somehow win the special election ?
They’re in the process of purging the civil service and putting their own people in, so I don’t doubt that they have the infrastructure to conduct voter fraud enough to win.
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« Reply #120 on: May 22, 2020, 10:27:22 PM »


Posts and stories processing the same thing have been circulating a while this past week or so. Hopefully democracy can be restored from the hands of the putschists.
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« Reply #121 on: May 22, 2020, 11:55:20 PM »

But remember folks, Morales is the real authoritarian. Smiley
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« Reply #122 on: May 23, 2020, 01:41:29 AM »

But remember folks, Morales is the real authoritarian. Smiley

He expanded the size of government. Sad
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« Reply #123 on: May 23, 2020, 06:06:14 AM »

Again, lets hear from all the "centrists" and "liberals" who supported this monstrosity.
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« Reply #124 on: May 23, 2020, 11:36:24 AM »

Lol I am so owned
Seriously, is there any other source for the claim that Añez is attempting a military coup?
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