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« on: October 19, 2019, 09:48:17 AM »
« edited: June 20, 2022, 06:53:26 AM by YE »

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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2019, 10:13:44 AM »

Is there a place to see your recommendations broken down by party or do you have to do it manually?
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2019, 10:39:04 AM »

Constitution - 1 (1%)
Democratic - 25 (37%)
Green - 5 (7%)
Independent - 8 (12%)
Libertarian - 1 (1%)
Other - 13 (19%)
Republican - 8 (12%)
Socialist - 7 (10%)

Left - 52 (76%)
Right - 16 (24%)

A left coalition seems most likely.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2019, 10:39:27 AM »

In the long run, almost everyone who doesn't ignore you will recommend, so I like the feature of weighting. Plus I don't want to do much more.

My results:
32% Democrat Party (37% with no weighting)
25% Republican Party (19% with no weighting)
16% Other (13% with no weighting)
10% Independent (10% with no weighting)
  6% Socialist Party (10% with no weighting)
  3% Libertarian Party
  1% Green Party
  1% Constitution Party (6% with no weighting)

On the weighted basis, I have also divided into these ideological space categories. Not as parliamentary, but most people would be thrown out of their parties.

  7% Socialist/Green
13% Independent/Other Leftist
22% Generic Democrat
11% Ironic Republican/Constitution
10% Generic True Conservative Republican/Fake Democrat
14% Other/Independent Rightist
  3% Constitution Party
  3% Libertarian Party
18% Far Right Mix of Republican/Democrat Avatars

Summary: 53% Left, 47% Right
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2019, 10:52:12 AM »

Is there a place to see your recommendations broken down by party or do you have to do it manually?

Manually. I did mine while I was waiting for the dough to rise for a breakfast pizza.

Pizza for breakfast, ey? Sounds to me you partied hard the night before lol.

Otherwise I'll probably look up my recommendations when Im on vacation in a week's time.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2019, 01:54:32 PM »

Since my return to Atlas

D   30   44.12%
S   4   5.88%
C   2   2.94%
I   13   19.12%
R   12   17.65%
G   4   5.88%
O   3   4.41%
L   0   0.00%

Projection: D-S coalition with independents.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2019, 04:42:46 PM »

In the long run, almost everyone who doesn't ignore you will recommend, so I like the feature of weighting. Plus I don't want to do much more.
This isn’t entirely true. I don’t think I’ve recommended more than 5-6 posts.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2019, 05:21:38 PM »

In the long run, almost everyone who doesn't ignore you will recommend, so I like the feature of weighting. Plus I don't want to do much more.

My results:
32% Democrat Party (37% with no weighting)
25% Republican Party (19% with no weighting)
16% Other (13% with no weighting)
10% Independent (10% with no weighting)
  6% Socialist Party (10% with no weighting)
  3% Libertarian Party
  1% Green Party
  1% Constitution Party (6% with no weighting)

On the weighted basis, I have also divided into these ideological space categories. Not as parliamentary, but most people would be thrown out of their parties.

  7% Socialist/Green
13% Independent/Other Leftist
22% Generic Democrat
11% Ironic Republican/Constitution
10% Generic True Conservative Republican/Fake Democrat
14% Other/Independent Rightist
  3% Constitution Party
  3% Libertarian Party
18% Far Right Mix of Republican/Democrat Avatars

Summary: 53% Left, 47% Right

Pls provide a breakdown of how you weighted the posters !
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2019, 05:54:04 PM »

I did the first page and a half of my post history before I got bored having to go back to check if that poster had already recommended a post previously:
  
Democrats/Liberals: 33.3% (16)
Republicans/Conservatives: 16.6% (8)
Socialists: 16.6% (8)
Others: 12.5% (6)
Greens: 10.4% (5)
Independents: 10.4% (5)

Fairly even spread funnily enough. Probably would be a Liberal-Green coalition with support from Others and Independents.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2019, 06:18:28 PM »
« Edited: October 19, 2019, 06:25:35 PM by Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ »

In the long run, almost everyone who doesn't ignore you will recommend, so I like the feature of weighting. Plus I don't want to do much more.

My results:
32% Democrat Party (37% with no weighting)
25% Republican Party (19% with no weighting)
16% Other (13% with no weighting)
10% Independent (10% with no weighting)
  6% Socialist Party (10% with no weighting)
  3% Libertarian Party
  1% Green Party
  1% Constitution Party (6% with no weighting)

On the weighted basis, I have also divided into these ideological space categories. Not as parliamentary, but most people would be thrown out of their parties.

  7% Socialist/Green
13% Independent/Other Leftist
22% Generic Democrat
11% Ironic Republican/Constitution
10% Generic True Conservative Republican/Fake Democrat
14% Other/Independent Rightist
  3% Constitution Party
  3% Libertarian Party
18% Far Right Mix of Republican/Democrat Avatars

Summary: 53% Left, 47% Right

Pls provide a breakdown of how you weighted the posters !

Weighted by number of recommends given XD
If it was a subjective weighting, you would be weighted more like Santander and Cath were Smiley

You were in the Conservative class if that's what you are referring to and perhaps the most difficult to classify.
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2019, 07:00:54 PM »
« Edited: October 19, 2019, 07:05:59 PM by Santander 🐸 »

Most of my likes come from lefties now that I've "reformed". Last 100 posts:

249 Seats

105 Democratic (42.2%)
41 Independent (16.5%)
34 Republican (13.7%)
34 Other (13.7%)
11 Socialist (4.4%)
10 None (4.0%)
6 Green (2.4%)
5 Constitution (2.0%)
3 Libertarian (1.2%)

Democratic-Independent-Other coalition seems logical, or even a Democratic minority government.
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2019, 07:06:24 PM »

Point of order: Everyone knows the Orange avatars are the best posters. Therefore I propose that a "recommend" from an Orange avatar be considered to have 5 times thr value of a like from anyone else.
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2019, 10:57:28 PM »

In the long run, almost everyone who doesn't ignore you will recommend, so I like the feature of weighting. Plus I don't want to do much more.

My results:
32% Democrat Party (37% with no weighting)
25% Republican Party (19% with no weighting)
16% Other (13% with no weighting)
10% Independent (10% with no weighting)
  6% Socialist Party (10% with no weighting)
  3% Libertarian Party
  1% Green Party
  1% Constitution Party (6% with no weighting)

On the weighted basis, I have also divided into these ideological space categories. Not as parliamentary, but most people would be thrown out of their parties.

  7% Socialist/Green
13% Independent/Other Leftist
22% Generic Democrat
11% Ironic Republican/Constitution
10% Generic True Conservative Republican/Fake Democrat
14% Other/Independent Rightist
  3% Constitution Party
  3% Libertarian Party
18% Far Right Mix of Republican/Democrat Avatars

Summary: 53% Left, 47% Right

Pls provide a breakdown of how you weighted the posters !

Weighted by number of recommends given XD
If it was a subjective weighting, you would be weighted more like Santander and Cath were Smiley

You were in the Conservative class if that's what you are referring to and perhaps the most difficult to classify.

Oh man... I can see that Constitution Party posters are weighted as being totally worthless Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2019, 01:42:40 AM »

How many Green Party ones are for me lol (which to be fair it’s mostly just because it looks nice).
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2019, 02:26:13 AM »

For my last 100 posts:

Democratic: 33
Republican: 6
Green: 5
Socialist: 5
Libertarian: 2
Constitution: 1
Others, left-of-center: 8
Others, right/unsure:: 6
Independents, left-of-center: 4
Independents, right/unsure: 5

75 seats. Democrats fall short, but considering the combined left/liberal other vote is 22 and the combined right-wing vote is 20 they'd easily assemble something (especially since a lot of the greens, socialists, and left/liberal others/indies are functionally dems anyway Tongue).
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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2019, 04:31:55 AM »

Dem:  19/60
Rep:   14/60
Ind:     8/60
Soc:     7/60
Other:  6/60
Liber:   3/60
Const:  1/60
Green:  1/60
Non:     1/60

most plausible is a left-ish coalition of Dem+Ind+Soc+Green (35/60)
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2019, 12:41:25 PM »

Last two pages of post
Democratic: 8 seats(40%)
Others: 4 seats(20%)
Republican: 2 seats(10%)
Independents: 1 seat(5%)
Libertarian: 2 seats(10%
Cathcon: 1 seat(5%)
Kalwejt: 1 seat(5%)
Smilo: 1 seat(5%)


I imagine we get a Democratic-Kalwejt-Smilo government.
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2019, 02:09:58 PM »

Results:
50% Democratic
18% Republican
12% Socialist
  9% Independent
  9% Other
  3% Unaffiliated

Summary: 62% left, 18% right

A 34 seat legislature. Some interesting notes: of the 72 recommends I have received across my 100 most recent posts, 29 of them (40%) have been from eric82oslo (second is tied at 3 between Eraserhead and Solidarity Forever). Also, 2 of my posts have been liked by Lief 🐋, which is a username I have not seen since early 2017.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2019, 04:56:08 PM »

54 Seats
14 Democratic (25.9%)
10 Republican (18.5%)
9   Other Right I/O/C/Fake D (16.7%)
6   Other Left I/O/G/Fake R (11.1%)
4   Socialist (7.4%)
4   True Independents (7.4%)
4   Unaligned Catholics (7.4%)
2   DINOs (3.7%)
1   Libertarian: (1.9%)

I think this would result in a very unstable government and likely require some sort of grand coalition. Some variety of Republican/Other Right/True Indy/Unaligned Catholic/DINO, or Democrat/Other Left/Socialist/DINO/True Indy are also possibilities. Some of the smaller groupings here could fracture over coalition agreements, and Lfromnj might have a whole lot of bargaining power Tongue

This would also change drastically if weighted by the number of recommendations rather than unique recommenders.
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2019, 09:27:30 AM »

Using the most recient 100 posts. Both using weighed and "count everyone once" numbers

Socialist: 6 / 3 (Urutzizu x4, Solidarity Forever, Jacobin American)
Democrat: 17 / 14 (Italian-boy, elephantower, RaphaelDLG, ON Progressive x3, brughmger2, Hoosier Nick, Parrotguy, BRTD, #TheShadowyAbyss, dfwlibertylover, West Midlander x2, Alex, eric82oslo, Peanut)
Green: 2 / 1 (YE x2)

Independent: 8 / 7 (Lakigigar, Goldwater x2, readeagleofficial, Sozialliberal, thumb21, KoopadaQuick, Wulfric)
No avatar: 1 / 1 (Pericles)
Other: 5 / 5 (FDB, Parochial Boy, Sprouts Farmer Market, Leinad, TimTiberius)

Republican: 3 / 3 (Tea Party Hater, conservatopia, Lechasseur)
Libertarian: 1 / 1 (Dead0man)
Constitution: 1 / 1 (Robowop)

Total: 44 / 36

In the scenario where people with multiple recommendations are counted multiple times, the coalition is easy. Socialists+Democrats would add up to an overall majority.

In the scenario where they are only counted once it gets a bit more interesting as Socialist+Democrats fall short, and even adding the lone Green only gives them exactly half. Most likely they just bring in the lone "no avatar" party as well, or possibly a minority supported by the indies.

Scenario 1:

Socialist: 13.6%
Democratic: 38.6%
Green: 4.5%

Independent: 18.2%
No avatar: 2.3%
Other: 11.4%

Republican: 6.8%
Libertarian: 2.3%
Constitution: 2.3%

Left: 56.7%
Centre: 31.9%
Right: 11.4%

Scenario 2

Socialist: 8.3%
Democratic: 38.9%
Green: 2.8%

Independent: 19.4%
No avatar: 2.8%
Other: 13.9%

Republican: 8.3%
Libertarian: 2.8%
Constitution: 2.8%

Left: 50%
Centre: 36.1%
Right: 13.9%
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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2019, 02:25:49 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2019, 02:38:03 PM by Chosen One Giuseppe Conte »

Going four pages back gives us, by my count, an 80-seat Parliament:

Democratic: 27 (33.75%)
Republican: 12 (15%)
Socialist: 9 (11.25%)
Green: 4 (5%)
Libertarian: 3 (3.75%)
Constitution: 2 (2.5%)

Other: 9 (11.25%)
Independent: 14 (17.5%)

Left-of-center posters are likelier to recommend my posts on politics; right-of-center posters are likelier to recommend my R&P and Forum Community posts.

This isn't the case for the actual posters in question, but for the sake of a more realistic left-right split, let's imagine that in this fictional country the independents are all right-of-center ex-Republicans reelected on their personal vote during some sort of ongoing collapse of the Republican Party. Let's give the "others" a 6/3 split between "miscellaneous left" and "miscellaneous right".

Democratic+Socialist+Green+Miscellaneous Left=46 (57.5%)
Republican+ex-Republican+Libertarian+Constitution+Miscellaneous Right=34 (42.5%)

The most coherent coalition is Democratic+Socialist+Green with confidence and supply from the miscellaneous left. The coalition itself has exactly 40 of the 80 seats; paging Benjamin Netanyahu! Also, since the Republicans include people like RI and DC, there might be a wider majority for redistributive and/or dirigiste economic policy than the party standings imply.

Not sure which of the Democratic posters in my recommendations would make the most sense for Prime Minister. Maybe afleitch since he's a mod, PR since we know each other off-forum, or Mung Beans since of the red avatars he's one of the closer to me On The Issues?
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2019, 01:30:44 AM »

Taking all the posts since my official "return" yields a 381-seat parliament. Just a bit less than the cube-root-rule size for a parliament for a country with the population of Italy or France.

Socialist: 61
Green: 41
Democrat: 135
Other: 42
Independent: 35
N/A: 11
Libertarian: 7
Republican: 48
Constitution: 1

A D/G/S coalitions enjoys a comfortable majority with 237 seats (62%). In addition, there are a quite a few leftists among the other categories. I count 15 or so among the Others, a half-dozen among Independents, and even a full dozen among Republicans (mostly that's because Mr. X has a Republican avatar right now). There are also 5 potential DINOs who might be unreliable (mainly Green Line and Santander). So, in a parliament that's loose on discipline, that all adds up to a left-wing policy majority of 265 or so (70%). There are probably fewer (55% or so) "true leftists", since many of the Democrats are somewhat moderate, but even those left-wing enough to be counted on for most policies.

I could see someone like Gass, LabourJersey or RaphaelDLG as the Prime Minister, with Nathan as DPM. Progressive Realist chairs the Democratic caucus, Kalwejt chairs the Socialist caucus, and Halifax chairs the Green caucus. On the opposition side, Kongress chairs the Republican caucus, Ilfromnj chairs the Libertarian caucus, and RoboWop is the lone member of the Constitution Caucus.
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2019, 02:07:40 AM »
« Edited: October 28, 2019, 02:13:24 AM by Chosen One Giuseppe Conte »

Doing this again counting each individual recommendation this time. Went back to the same post I went back to last time, which is on the sixth page now because I have posted a LOT today. This yields a parliament with 213 seats.

Democratic: 74 (34.74%)
Socialist: 31 (14.55%)
Republican: 28 (13.16%)
Green: 9 (4.23%)
Libertarian: 9 (4.23%)
Constitution: 2 (0.94%)

Other: 22 (10.33%)
Independent: 38 (17.84%)

What an unhealthy political spectrum. It looks like in this country the Democrats are a dominant centrist party, with smaller left and right wings, spread (at least in this particular election) in such a way that there's no natural coalition other than the Democrats just picking a side to ally with for the moment. It's the sort of result that you might see in the Dail Eireann after an especially embarrassing campaign for Fine Gael or something. Still, it could be so, so much worse.

In this case, since most of our red avatars are in fact left-of-center, I think the most natural coalition is Democratic+Socialist+Green, which has 114 seats or 53.52% of the house.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2019, 02:50:35 AM »

27 Unique Individual Recommendations*

8 - Democrat______29.62%
7 - Republican_____25.92%
6 - Independent ___22.22%
2 - Other__________7.41%
2 - Socialist________7.41%
1 - Green__________3.70%
1 - Libertarian  _____3.70%

This parliament is so hung, its basically an X rated movie.

*3 pages counted, only unique individuals counted
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2019, 05:15:46 AM »

Only doing October

Constitutional - 1
Democrat - 37
Green - 2
Independent - 8
Libertarian - 1
Other - 3
Republican - 8
Socialist - 10

In a House of 70, there's a Democratic majority of 5 over all other parties. Socialists form the Opposition.

The person who has given me the most recommendations and will therefore dragged to the Speakers Chair is Nathan.
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