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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2019, 01:05:28 PM »

Bayh Bayh.
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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2019, 01:28:52 PM »

I didn't even notice this was an LV poll. What do we know about the LV screen?

Are we stuck in the "Moscow midterm" of 2014, or are normal people more likely to vote now?
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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2019, 01:34:28 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2019, 01:52:37 PM by Sensitive Soccer Moms Against Impeachment »

I didn't even notice this was an LV poll. What do we know about the LV screen?

Are we stuck in the "Moscow midterm" of 2014, or are normal people more likely to vote now?

LMAO, yeah, clearly McConnell only won in 2014 because the Russians stole that race for him. But you’re a native Kentuckian, so I have no reason not to trust your analysis.
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« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2019, 01:37:04 PM »


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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2019, 01:59:57 PM »


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« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2019, 03:23:41 PM »

You’re using a poll from over six years ago to try to discredit a result you don’t like

Bevin is using ideas from 600 years ago to discredit a world he doesn't like.

And the people of Kentucky will eat that right up.
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« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2019, 03:32:25 PM »

Since KY clearly loves fiscal conservatism so much, I say the next Democratic president should do them a favor and try to pull all benefits from the state.
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« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2019, 03:33:30 PM »

Since KY clearly loves fiscal conservatism so much, I say the next Democratic president should do them a favor and try to pull all benefits from the state.

If we're too wussified to do anything about Bevin, I guess we deserve it.
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« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2019, 06:52:20 PM »

And of course in 2015 as well when Conway was leading in every poll but one which was tied. Then Bevin outperformed the polls by 11.7%.

Ever think maybe it's not the polls that are off?

It's like on 'Cops' when the cop says, "So all these witnesses are lying?"
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« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2019, 09:20:05 PM »

And of course in 2015 as well when Conway was leading in every poll but one which was tied. Then Bevin outperformed the polls by 11.7%.

Ever think maybe it's not the polls that are off?

It's like on 'Cops' when the cop says, "So all these witnesses are lying?"

Kentucky has a Democratic Secretary of State if you are implying Republicans are somehow stealing elections there
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« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2019, 09:21:55 PM »

If Bevin wins, he cheated. End of story.
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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2019, 04:11:54 AM »


I'm still impressed how far you'll go to not accept the political reality of your state.
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« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2019, 07:06:47 AM »

I'm still impressed how far you'll go to not accept the political reality of your state.

Read my 'Cops' post again.
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« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2019, 07:40:06 PM »

Jesus on skates and Mary's in The Penalty Box. It's a respectable poll showing a tie. People trying to pronounce the race over one way or another from this are being foolish
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« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2019, 09:17:48 PM »

Jesus on skates and Mary's in The Penalty Box. It's a respectable poll showing a tie. People trying to pronounce the race over one way or another from this are being foolish
Kentucky polls overestimate Democrats.
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« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2019, 09:19:09 PM »

F in the chat for Any Beshear.
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« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2019, 01:16:15 PM »


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« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2019, 01:25:44 PM »

Something to consider: this is an off-off year election and it's far from clear that turnout dynamics will favor Republicans, as they so evidently did in 2015. The anti-Bevin crowd in Kentucky would like him to be hung from a post and every teacher in the state will be voting - do you feel confident that Trump can rustle up a bunch of coal dust blown hillbillies to vote for Bevin? It's possible, especially in a politically charged period, but it's also possible that Bevin is crushed because turnout is low.

I think this race is a tossup.
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« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2019, 01:45:18 PM »

Do you feel confident that Trump can rustle up a bunch of coal dust blown hillbillies to vote for Bevin?

Yes.
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« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2019, 01:50:35 PM »

But I thought Beshear had this in the bag because he led big in December polls and his own internals! It's not like Democrats collapse in every crimson red state (especially Kentucky) at the end of every campaign! It doesn't matter because MUH Bevin unpopulaaarrrrr!

I tried to tell you all, I really did. TN-Sen/OK-Gov redux.


And of course in 2015 as well when Conway was leading in every poll but one which was tied. Then Bevin outperformed the polls by 11.7%.




If you notice they nailed Conway's support. I expect the same this year.
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« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2019, 02:04:13 PM »

A good rule of thumb is this: "Whenever there's a thread on Atlas about KY or WV, expect things to get ugly fast."
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« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2019, 06:24:29 PM »

A good rule of thumb is this: "Whenever there's a thread on Atlas about KY or WV, expect things to get ugly fast."

For the Democratic candidate, that’s a fair rule
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« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2019, 02:37:29 AM »

But I thought Beshear had this in the bag because he led big in December polls and his own internals! It's not like Democrats collapse in every crimson red state (especially Kentucky) at the end of every campaign! It doesn't matter because MUH Bevin unpopulaaarrrrr!

I tried to tell you all, I really did. TN-Sen/OK-Gov redux.


And of course in 2015 as well when Conway was leading in every poll but one which was tied. Then Bevin outperformed the polls by 11.7%.




If you notice they nailed Conway's support. I expect the same this year.
Curtis's vote share being inflated is a bad sign for Beshear though.
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« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2019, 09:38:27 AM »

Let's lighten up a candle for Beshear (and McGrath) next year. KY needs some upsets.
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« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2019, 10:54:20 AM »

There's a huge "Republicans for Beshear" page on Facebook. If Bevin is so popular like everyone claims, why is there no "Democrats for Bevin" page?
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