What are the chances of a socialist/green, militant Christian faction rising?

[Blue3]

What are the chances of a militant Christian faction led and dominated by socialists/environmentalists/far-leftists rising to power in the US party politics over the next century?

[Kamala's side hoe]

A Christian left political insurgency seems reasonably likely. Not sure what you mean by "militant".

[Technocracy Timmy]

In the immediate term? 0%. White Christians have made their (political) choice, and consequently, younger whites will continue to leave the faith in droves. Honestly, the impending era will essentially pit geriatric white Protestants (the Klan at worship) against everyone else. Obviously, the Christian faith will suffer immensely as a result, and if Europe is any indication, those who abandon superstition will do so permanently. Which is a wonderful thing .

America is increasingly abandoning religious superstition, but not superstition as a whole:



“Nones” have fueled the secularization of the US. They’re equally as gullible as the average American.

[R.P. McM]

In the immediate term? 0%. White Christians have made their (political) choice, and consequently, younger whites will continue to leave the faith in droves. Honestly, the impending era will essentially pit geriatric white Protestants (the Klan at worship) against everyone else. Obviously, the Christian faith will suffer immensely as a result, and if Europe is any indication, those who abandon superstition will do so permanently. Which is a wonderful thing .

America is increasingly abandoning religious superstition, but not superstition as a whole:



“Nones” have fueled the secularization of the US. They’re equally as gullible as the average American.

That's fine — I'm less concerned about the followers of Miss Cleo than the followers of Robert Jeffress.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

In the immediate term? 0%. White Christians have made their (political) choice, and consequently, younger whites will continue to leave the faith in droves. Honestly, the impending era will essentially pit geriatric white Protestants (the Klan at worship) against everyone else. Obviously, the Christian faith will suffer immensely as a result, and if Europe is any indication, those who abandon superstition will do so permanently. Which is a wonderful thing .

America is increasingly abandoning religious superstition, but not superstition as a whole:



“Nones” have fueled the secularization of the US. They’re equally as gullible as the average American.

Interesting that Evangelicals and atheists are the only two groups that have majorities that don't believe in any of those things.  Not often that you see those two groups on one side and everyone else on the other.  I'm not sure what to make of that stat though.

[R.P. McM]

In the immediate term? 0%. White Christians have made their (political) choice, and consequently, younger whites will continue to leave the faith in droves. Honestly, the impending era will essentially pit geriatric white Protestants (the Klan at worship) against everyone else. Obviously, the Christian faith will suffer immensely as a result, and if Europe is any indication, those who abandon superstition will do so permanently. Which is a wonderful thing .

America is increasingly abandoning religious superstition, but not superstition as a whole:



“Nones” have fueled the secularization of the US. They’re equally as gullible as the average American.

Interesting that Evangelicals and atheists are the only two groups that have majorities that don't believe in any of those things.  Not often that you see those two groups on one side and everyone else on the other.  I'm not sure what to make of that stat though.

Pretty obvious! That's like asking why both accomplished scientists and North Koreans reject the claims of L. Ron Hubbard. Well, one group is dedicated empiricists, the other group is an authoritarian cult. One group rejects bulls**t unequivocally, the other group rejects only bulls**t that doesn't emanate from their bulls**t. I have no doubt that white evangelicals reject FGM when practiced by Islamic clerics, but if Donald Trump proceeded to rip a fetus from its womb and eat its clitoris, I'm sure they'd find a Biblical justification for his behavior.

[Skill and Chance]

A new Great Awakening that incorporates much of the "woke" cultural movement into Christianity is a distinct possibility, but it probably needs another generation to incubate and for the American right to secularize more noticeably.  But watch out as Millennial Evangelicals and Mormons begin to enter their peak voting years and attain leadership positions in their churches.  Some Christian cultural institutions could flip dramatically over the next 10-20 years.

The other possibility is that they push the Christian Right to evolve into a social gospel movement that remains a wing of the political right but embraces significantly more economic intervention than previously.  In this scenario, there would be a lot more GOP primary challenges from the economic center-left, particularly in rural Southern areas.  However, this is assuming that the new upscale Dem base succeeds in pulling the party in a secular libertarian direction.  I think this scenario is a bit more likely in the long run, but it's hard to see it today.

[Agonized-Statism]

A new Great Awakening that incorporates much of the "woke" cultural movement into Christianity is a distinct possibility, but it probably needs another generation to incubate and for the American right to secularize more noticeably.  But watch out as Millennial Evangelicals and Mormons begin to enter their peak voting years and attain leadership positions in their churches.  Some Christian cultural institutions could flip dramatically over the next 10-20 years.

This. I've been speculating about the Fifth Great Awakening for years now. I think Catholics, either Latin American immigrants or hardcore conservatives left over from all the newly atheist/agnostic casuals, are seen tomorrow as Evangelicals are seen today. I've seen some small liberal movements in Protestant churches, and I think those will turn into something bigger.

[SInNYC]

In the immediate term? 0%. White Christians have made their (political) choice, and consequently, younger whites will continue to leave the faith in droves. Honestly, the impending era will essentially pit geriatric white Protestants (the Klan at worship) against everyone else. Obviously, the Christian faith will suffer immensely as a result, and if Europe is any indication, those who abandon superstition will do so permanently. Which is a wonderful thing .

FREE BARABBAS! — Trump-loving white trash.

Be careful what you wish for. When people leave the church, the denominations that suffer most are typically the  less dogmatic ones. Those left behind will be the real wackos and the church in general may move more fundamentalist and/or terrorist.

Western Europe has become secular, but it also has state churches (in name at least). The US potentially has lots of denominations that can tune out of 'evil godless society' and live by their own rules. You might get the Amish, but you might also get a Christian ISIS if times are bad.

[R.P. McM]

In the immediate term? 0%. White Christians have made their (political) choice, and consequently, younger whites will continue to leave the faith in droves. Honestly, the impending era will essentially pit geriatric white Protestants (the Klan at worship) against everyone else. Obviously, the Christian faith will suffer immensely as a result, and if Europe is any indication, those who abandon superstition will do so permanently. Which is a wonderful thing .

FREE BARABBAS! — Trump-loving white trash.

Be careful what you wish for. When people leave the church, the denominations that suffer most are typically the  less dogmatic ones. Those left behind will be the real wackos and the church in general may move more fundamentalist and/or terrorist.

Western Europe has become secular, but it also has state churches (in name at least). The US potentially has lots of denominations that can tune out of 'evil godless society' and live by their own rules. You might get the Amish, but you might also get a Christian ISIS if times are bad.

Who cares? If white Christians congeal into a violent extremist movement with negligible popular support, they'll be setting themselves up to reap the whirlwind. I don't fear them any more than I fear the primitive savagery of ISIS. They're losers flailing helplessly against modernity, and inevitably, they'll be crushed.

[Person Man]

In the immediate term? 0%. White Christians have made their (political) choice, and consequently, younger whites will continue to leave the faith in droves. Honestly, the impending era will essentially pit geriatric white Protestants (the Klan at worship) against everyone else. Obviously, the Christian faith will suffer immensely as a result, and if Europe is any indication, those who abandon superstition will do so permanently. Which is a wonderful thing .

America is increasingly abandoning religious superstition, but not superstition as a whole:



“Nones” have fueled the secularization of the US. They’re equally as gullible as the average American.

Interesting that Evangelicals and atheists are the only two groups that have majorities that don't believe in any of those things.  Not often that you see those two groups on one side and everyone else on the other.  I'm not sure what to make of that stat though.

Atheist means atheist. Evangelical means that if it isn't explicitly mentioned in the bible of whoever leads your congregation, that it's "not part of God's plan" and therefore against your religion.

A lot of these aren't new ideas. If you go to communion or believe that a person is immediately created when you are fertile person who has unprotected sex with a fertile partner, you believe that physical objects have spiritual energy.

If you are a fundamentalist who believes in "speaking in tongues", you believe in ESP.

[H. Ross Peron]

In the immediate term? 0%. White Christians have made their (political) choice, and consequently, younger whites will continue to leave the faith in droves. Honestly, the impending era will essentially pit geriatric white Protestants (the Klan at worship) against everyone else. Obviously, the Christian faith will suffer immensely as a result, and if Europe is any indication, those who abandon superstition will do so permanently. Which is a wonderful thing .

FREE BARABBAS! — Trump-loving white trash.

Be careful what you wish for. When people leave the church, the denominations that suffer most are typically the  less dogmatic ones. Those left behind will be the real wackos and the church in general may move more fundamentalist and/or terrorist.

Western Europe has become secular, but it also has state churches (in name at least). The US potentially has lots of denominations that can tune out of 'evil godless society' and live by their own rules. You might get the Amish, but you might also get a Christian ISIS if times are bad.

Who cares? If white Christians congeal into a violent extremist movement with negligible popular support, they'll be setting themselves up to reap the whirlwind. I don't fear them any more than I fear the primitive savagery of ISIS. They're losers flailing helplessly against modernity, and inevitably, they'll be crushed.

This is the same thing the French Jacobins told themselves in 1793 and Russian Bolsheviks told themselves in 1917. You may be sorely disappointed.

[Grassroots]

Bruh.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

What are the chances of a militant Christian faction led and dominated by socialists/environmentalists/far-leftists rising to power in the US party politics over the next century?

Considering that the Christian Left is dominated by Boomer/Silent dinosaurs still living in the 1960s, slim to none.

[R.P. McM]

In the immediate term? 0%. White Christians have made their (political) choice, and consequently, younger whites will continue to leave the faith in droves. Honestly, the impending era will essentially pit geriatric white Protestants (the Klan at worship) against everyone else. Obviously, the Christian faith will suffer immensely as a result, and if Europe is any indication, those who abandon superstition will do so permanently. Which is a wonderful thing .

FREE BARABBAS! — Trump-loving white trash.

Be careful what you wish for. When people leave the church, the denominations that suffer most are typically the  less dogmatic ones. Those left behind will be the real wackos and the church in general may move more fundamentalist and/or terrorist.

Western Europe has become secular, but it also has state churches (in name at least). The US potentially has lots of denominations that can tune out of 'evil godless society' and live by their own rules. You might get the Amish, but you might also get a Christian ISIS if times are bad.

Who cares? If white Christians congeal into a violent extremist movement with negligible popular support, they'll be setting themselves up to reap the whirlwind. I don't fear them any more than I fear the primitive savagery of ISIS. They're losers flailing helplessly against modernity, and inevitably, they'll be crushed.

This is the same thing the French Jacobins told themselves in 1793 and Russian Bolsheviks told themselves in 1917. You may be sorely disappointed.

? Both the Jacobins and the Bolsheviks won. Not unequivocally, but the regimes they destroyed mostly remain in the graveyard of history. So what's your point? Is Christianity stronger in contemporary France or Russia than it was in 1780 or 1910, respectively? Hahaha! No, it's a shadow of its former self.