If Stacey Abrams wins will it be Trump's fault?
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« on: June 05, 2022, 12:59:39 AM »

Not saying that it's likely, but if it happens.
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2022, 01:08:56 AM »

Yes.

It will also be Trump's fault if Mark Kelly and Katie Hobbs win. Realistically, Ducey should be the senate nominee and either Brnovich or Yee for governor.

Kemp is also going into the 2022 cycle weaker than he would be had Trump supported him.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2022, 01:06:38 PM »

She won’t, but yes, it will be his fault.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2022, 02:27:19 PM »

Given the climate, voting restrictions put into place in GA post-2020 and Trump's instigating against Kemp (and in the opposite direction, continuing demographic shift), I'd lean toward yes. Unlike some and in the worst-case scenario, I don't believe that an Abrams loss will be statistically larger than it was in 2018 - and as we saw in the runoffs, Trump's rainclouds over everything contributed potentially one point or more in favor of Warnock and Ossoff.

However, it's just as likely that demographic shift contributes as much or more as anything Trump says or does. Now, if he were somehow petty enough to endorse Abrams outright...whew.


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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2022, 02:35:49 PM »

No, it would be pure demographic change.  Stacey Abrams is the most overhyped Dem candidate ever.  She just happened to be in the right place at (nearly) the right time. 
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2022, 03:51:59 PM »

Assuming it's a narrow victory royale, yes. Trump as a whole has repeadtedly put the GA GOP in a bind that likely cost them the runoffs and his poor performance in Atlanta caused him to lose the state.

Northern Georgia is probably the most "Trumpy" part of the state that nets the most votes for the GOP given it's relatively dense nature, so GOP turnout there will be key.

No, it would be pure demographic change.  Stacey Abrams is the most overhyped Dem candidate ever.  She just happened to be in the right place at (nearly) the right time. 

I disagree it would be "pure demographic change". Demographic shifts in GA def help, but between 2016 and 2020 Pres, the voter turnout increase in much of greater Atlanta was absolutely massive and above just grwoth and above the national increase. The voter activation efforts definitely had an impact though how big is hard to truly say.

I don't think Abrams herself is the strongest candidate in terms of actually flipping voters, but her efforts have definitely turned-out voters which I'd argue is ultimately more important.

In hindsight, her 2018 loss wasn't particuarly impressive given statewide Dem wins since then but it was part of a greater pretty linear shift in Dems favour.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2022, 05:30:39 PM »
« Edited: June 06, 2022, 12:04:31 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

No, it's a Runoff, GA and AZ are alot more bluer now than before they are turning into VA we don't  know yet about NC, Beasley can win
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