HR 20-17: Democracy Is Not For Sale Amendment (Passed)
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« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2019, 04:29:41 PM »

Nay

I vote Nay because I had no answer about the issue raised of possibility and legality of limiting speanding to ridiculously low amount, only symbolic likee 1$, so I prefer to be cautious and not vote for something to later find out it authorized something I didn't know.
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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2019, 11:25:23 AM »

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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2019, 12:20:28 AM »

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Your proposal would make it legal to limit these organizations to only spending $1.00 per election.

I wanted to know if this could legally happen. If the constitution has a right for third party spending  and Congress could regulate this but not eliminate it. I mean it could be restrictions but allowing a respectable spending limit (not a few dollars only).

That's a power that Congress should have IMO if it were to choose, at least from a constitutional standpoint.
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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2019, 12:43:12 AM »

Fails 4-2 (needed 6).

Let me re-introduce this using my own slot and same thread.
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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2019, 08:31:29 PM »

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Your proposal would make it legal to limit these organizations to only spending $1.00 per election.

I wanted to know if this could legally happen. If the constitution has a right for third party spending  and Congress could regulate this but not eliminate it. I mean it could be restrictions but allowing a respectable spending limit (not a few dollars only).

That's a power that Congress should have IMO if it were to choose, at least from a constitutional standpoint.

Limiting spending to 1$ for example could be seen as stopping freedom of speech.
"Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, nor of the press, nor withholding the freedom to peaceably assemble and to petition for the redress of grievances."
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« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2019, 08:40:17 PM »

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Your proposal would make it legal to limit these organizations to only spending $1.00 per election.

I wanted to know if this could legally happen. If the constitution has a right for third party spending  and Congress could regulate this but not eliminate it. I mean it could be restrictions but allowing a respectable spending limit (not a few dollars only).

That's a power that Congress should have IMO if it were to choose, at least from a constitutional standpoint.

Limiting spending to 1$ for example could be seen as stopping freedom of speech.
"Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, nor of the press, nor withholding the freedom to peaceably assemble and to petition for the redress of grievances."

Maybe currently, but not if this amendment were to pass.
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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2019, 01:27:58 AM »

Motion for a final vote.

24 hours to object.
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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2019, 02:25:23 PM »

This is a highly important amendment which helps protect our democracy from attack by big business and lobbyists. Elections must be about ideas and policies, not money. This is an important first step and I am excited to vote aye!
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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2019, 09:16:12 AM »

Bump, let's vote.
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« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2019, 06:14:04 PM »

A very much needed amendment which would serve to defend our democracy from lobbyists, and in turn reduce corruption in our country. Money should never be a reason for legislation, but instead their own personal beliefs and ideas. I support this amendment towards this purpose!

I also concur with Rep. Thumb21 on motioning for a vote.
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« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2019, 06:43:09 PM »

Fails 4-2 (needed 6).

Let me re-introduce this using my own slot and same thread.

Even if a bill is presented again, shouldn't the number be changed ? I think it should start in another thread anf have the minimum debate time.
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« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2019, 12:08:46 AM »

You might have a technical point tbh. I just did what Sestak did with the EFCA back when he was PPT.

A 72 hour final vote is now open.
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« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2019, 12:19:14 AM »

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« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2019, 12:22:24 AM »

AYE
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« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2019, 12:22:46 AM »

Abstain
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« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2019, 12:29:01 AM »

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« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2019, 02:47:36 AM »

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« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2019, 08:33:30 AM »

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« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2019, 10:22:16 AM »

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« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2019, 05:55:40 PM »

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« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2019, 04:22:37 PM »

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« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2019, 06:56:41 PM »

This has enough votes to pass.

24 hours to change your vote.
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« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2019, 02:31:21 PM »

Passes

8-0-1-0
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« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2019, 08:25:53 PM »

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AN AMENDMENT
to the Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia

Be it enacted by both houses of Congress, assembled:
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Section 1 (Title)
i. The title of this Amendment shall be, the "Democracy Is Not For Sale Amendment."

Section 2 (Amendment)
i. Article IIIž6(i) of the Fourth Constitution is amended to read as follows:
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The Congress shall have the power, except where limited elsewhere by this Constitution, [. . .]
xvi. To regulate independent expenditures for political communication.

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This amendment would overturn the ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission by allowing Congress to regulate third party spending in political campaigns.
House of Representatives:
Passed the House of Representatives 8-0-1-0
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