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« Reply #350 on: October 18, 2019, 12:55:47 PM »

Trump seriously just used the term "ultimate solution" while discussing the Turkish ethnic cleansing campaign.
LOL

but also

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« Reply #351 on: October 18, 2019, 01:12:51 PM »

Trump seriously just used the term "ultimate solution" while discussing the Turkish ethnic cleansing campaign.



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« Reply #352 on: October 18, 2019, 01:34:32 PM »

Trump seriously just used the term "ultimate solution" while discussing the Turkish ethnic cleansing campaign.
Wow... definitely can see how that is offensive.
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« Reply #353 on: October 18, 2019, 02:09:46 PM »


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« Reply #354 on: October 18, 2019, 03:05:04 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2019, 03:20:56 PM by Ghost of Ruin »

Trump blurts out a startling statement: ‘We’ve taken control of the oil in the Middle East’
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“We’ve taken control of the oil in the Middle East, the oil that we’re talking about, the oil that everybody was worried about. We have the U.S. control of that,” Trump said, minutes after concluding a talk with the first two women astronauts to participate in an all-women spacewalk.

Trump went on to claim “there are no shots being fired, and a lot of people are doing a lot of things,” despite the supposed “ceasefire” that lasted less than 24 hours.

“This is a deal that should been made 15 years, 10 ago, over the last number of years under the Obama administration. The real numbers is over one million people were killed,” Trump said, doubling his claim from earlier this week. “We have lost no, not a drop of blood since we’ve started, what I’ve started, and it was, so far it’s working out.”
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« Reply #355 on: October 18, 2019, 03:34:49 PM »

Trump blurts out a startling statement: ‘We’ve taken control of the oil in the Middle East’
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“We’ve taken control of the oil in the Middle East, the oil that we’re talking about, the oil that everybody was worried about. We have the U.S. control of that,” Trump said, minutes after concluding a talk with the first two women astronauts to participate in an all-women spacewalk.

Trump went on to claim “there are no shots being fired, and a lot of people are doing a lot of things,” despite the supposed “ceasefire” that lasted less than 24 hours.

“This is a deal that should been made 15 years, 10 ago, over the last number of years under the Obama administration. The real numbers is over one million people were killed,” Trump said, doubling his claim from earlier this week. “We have lost no, not a drop of blood since we’ve started, what I’ve started, and it was, so far it’s working out.”
He said the quiet part loud. OOPS! He just can't not f__k up. He isn't capable of competance.
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« Reply #356 on: October 18, 2019, 03:44:29 PM »

Turkish Proxies Appear to Be Using White Phosphorus in Syria
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with Turkey on Oct. 16. DELIL SOULEIMAN/AFP via Getty Images

Turkish-backed forces appear to be using munitions loaded with white phosphorus—a chemical that can maim and kill when it comes in contact with human flesh—in their violent campaign against Kurdish fighters in northern Syria, Foreign Policy has learned.

If Turkish proxies are intentionally using white phosphorus-loaded munitions to target civilians, that could constitute a war crime. After publication of this article, U.N.-backed investigators said they were looking into the accusations.

Meanwhile, reports emerged overnight that Turkey has continued to attack Kurdish fighters and civilian settlements in the border town of Ras al-Ain, despite a cease-fire agreement announced by U.S. Vice President Mike Pence. Turkish-backed forces targeted a Kurdish medical convoy and an American aid organization trying to get into the town to evacuate wounded civilians, according to a Syrian conflict monitor and an official with the Kurdish Red Crescent.
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« Reply #357 on: October 18, 2019, 06:08:59 PM »

I'll give Trump the benefit of the doubt on the "ultimate solution" statement. He is too slow-witted to make the historical connection to use the term as intended. He probably just thought it sounded cool. You know how he is with his adjectives.
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« Reply #358 on: October 20, 2019, 08:20:59 AM »
« Edited: October 20, 2019, 08:25:54 AM by Ghost of Ruin »

I'll give Trump the benefit of the doubt on the "ultimate solution" statement. He is too slow-witted to make the historical connection to use the term as intended. He probably just thought it sounded cool. You know how he is with his adjectives.


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« Reply #359 on: October 20, 2019, 04:45:21 PM »

"At least our troops will finally be coming home."

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« Reply #360 on: October 21, 2019, 10:54:28 AM »

#MAGA!
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« Reply #361 on: October 21, 2019, 11:27:38 AM »

Turkey is hardly "a relatively small country". Its population equals that of Germany and Iran.
Neither of which are in good positions to force us to withdraw troops.

There is no way we could keep troops in Germany against the will of the German government, and Iran is a country the US would not be able to occupy.
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« Reply #362 on: October 21, 2019, 02:53:12 PM »

Some U.S. Troops May Remain In Northeast Syria To Protect Oil Fields
The U.S. may now keep some troops in northeast Syria, Defense Secretary Mark Esper said on Monday. It is the latest in a series of consequential pivots the Trump administration has made in its Syria policy.

Esper said the troops are needed to secure oil fields from falling into the hands of ISIS and profiting from them, The Associated Press reports. But most recently it was Russian mercenaries, not ISIS fighters, who tried to seize the oil fields and who were repulsed by U.S. airstrikes, NPR's Tom Bowman reports.

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« Reply #363 on: October 21, 2019, 05:13:41 PM »

#MAGA!


I recall a 'Full Frontal with Samantha Bee' segment that was based on going to Kurdistan and examining why they were so relatively favorable to Trump...so much that for that, I guess! You think their esteem for Trump would have been enough of an ego stroke for him to want to continue protecting the Kurds. Like always though, whenever someone provides something for Trump, he betrays them for petty reasons and then makes them an opponent. Just look at nearly all of the people who used to work for him.
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« Reply #364 on: October 21, 2019, 05:53:53 PM »

The fact that there are still troops explains why the unification agreement hasn't gone into effect in the areas where troops are still present. On the other hand, that could be productive for the US strategy.
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« Reply #365 on: October 21, 2019, 06:06:57 PM »

The US should offer all Kurds, Hong Kongers, Taiwanese, and Israelis immediate US citizenship!
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« Reply #366 on: October 21, 2019, 06:29:18 PM »

#MAGA!

This is truly saddening. Speaking as someone who has talked to many of our troops, this move, while saddening, was not unexpected by them.
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« Reply #367 on: October 22, 2019, 02:01:08 PM »

Looks like the soldiers Donald orders to abandon our Kurdish allies are coming home after all:

Iraq says U.S. forces withdrawing from Syria have no approval to stay
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U.S. forces that crossed into Iraq as part of a pull-out from Syria do not have permission to stay and can only be there in transit, the Iraqi military said on Tuesday.

U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper said, however, that Washington aimed eventually to bring the troops withdrawing from Syria back to the United States.

The Iraqi military statement contradicted the Pentagon’s announcement that all of the nearly 1,000 troops withdrawing from northern Syria are expected to move to western Iraq to continue the campaign against Islamic State militants and to help defend Iraq.

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« Reply #368 on: October 22, 2019, 02:38:29 PM »

Looks like the soldiers Donald orders to abandon our Kurdish allies are coming home after all:

Iraq says U.S. forces withdrawing from Syria have no approval to stay
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U.S. forces that crossed into Iraq as part of a pull-out from Syria do not have permission to stay and can only be there in transit, the Iraqi military said on Tuesday.

U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper said, however, that Washington aimed eventually to bring the troops withdrawing from Syria back to the United States.

The Iraqi military statement contradicted the Pentagon’s announcement that all of the nearly 1,000 troops withdrawing from northern Syria are expected to move to western Iraq to continue the campaign against Islamic State militants and to help defend Iraq.



  I thought Trump promised people would respect America again.
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« Reply #369 on: October 22, 2019, 05:57:38 PM »

McConnell introduces resolution opposing US withdrawal from Syria
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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other top Republican senators introduced a resolution Tuesday in opposition to President Donald Trump's withdrawal from Syria, warning that his decision has benefited Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, ISIS, Russia and Iran.

"If not arrested, withdrawing from Syria will invite more of the chaos that breeds terrorism and creates a vacuum our adversaries will certainly fill," McConnell said on the Senate floor.

McConnell said if the President doesn't halt the withdrawal, Russia "will gain more leverage" in the Middle East, Iran-backed forces could gain greater access to a "strategic corridor that runs all the way from Tehran to the very doorstep of Israel" and the Assad regime will be invited to "reassert its oppressive control" over northeastern Syria.
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« Reply #370 on: October 22, 2019, 06:08:30 PM »

#MAGA!


This is truly saddening. Speaking as someone who has talked to many of our troops, this move, while saddening, was not unexpected by them.

Sad.
I'm sure some of our troops bonded with the Kurds (their fighters and normal populace). And now they have to explain that their a**hole president (not them) have been ordered to abandon their positions and leave the Kurds without protection.
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« Reply #371 on: October 23, 2019, 10:12:57 AM »

Trump declares 'big success' in Syria as Russia, Turkey take control of key region
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President Donald Trump declared a "big success" in Syria on Wednesday, even as Russia gained a foothold in that country and members of Congress expressed growing concerns about Trump's policy.

Critics quickly ridiculed Trump's claim of a victory. The president has come under withering criticism for withdrawing U.S. forces from northeastern Syria, paving the way for a deadly Turkish attack on U.S.-allied Kurdish forces.

"The only 'big success' is that Russia is now the dominant power in Syria and Vladimir Putin is the major-domo of Middle East power politics," said Mark Dubowitz, chief executive of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a hawkish Washington-based foreign policy research institute.
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« Reply #372 on: October 23, 2019, 03:49:32 PM »

https://cnn.it/33SQiou

Trump lifts all sanctions against Turkey

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« Reply #373 on: October 23, 2019, 03:57:34 PM »


Good Lord...
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« Reply #374 on: October 23, 2019, 04:18:39 PM »


Gee, and I really, really thought that meant something. (Not!)

On the bright side, now there isn’t a Kurdish Question distancing us from our Turkish allies in NATO.
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