Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread v2 (pg 77 - declares victory in Iowa)
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« Reply #725 on: January 01, 2020, 09:54:45 PM »

Over 5 million individual contributions is a very strong number, even for Sanders. Great momentum heading into the final month before Iowa; everything hinges on these last few weeks.
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« Reply #726 on: January 02, 2020, 10:23:23 AM »

Bernie comes in a strong first with $34.5 million baby
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« Reply #727 on: January 02, 2020, 10:35:49 AM »

“Look Bernie we need to fundraise from billionaires and special interests. It’s the only way to raise money for a presidential campaign”
“Let me school you son”
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« Reply #728 on: January 02, 2020, 12:02:27 PM »

Nobody is surprised that Sanders wins these fundraising skirmishes... he is the only candidate who already had a massive fundraising network in place starting his campaign, and he's invested most of his money in aggressively expanding that fundraising network.
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« Reply #729 on: January 02, 2020, 02:41:23 PM »

Congrats to Bernie, it's an impressive number.

That said, Bernie has skated by a whole year so far without real media scrutiny. To the extent there have been any attacks on his policies, like Medicare for All, it's been directed at Warren. They've gone straight from ignoring him (which his supporters were able to paint as bad) to giving him positive coverage. His campaign gets to have its cake and eat it too: neutral to positive coverage, while nursing a persecution complex at the same time.
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« Reply #730 on: January 02, 2020, 04:37:07 PM »

Congrats to Bernie, it's an impressive number.

That said, Bernie has skated by a whole year so far without real media scrutiny. To the extent there have been any attacks on his policies, like Medicare for All, it's been directed at Warren. They've gone straight from ignoring him (which his supporters were able to paint as bad) to giving him positive coverage. His campaign gets to have its cake and eat it too: neutral to positive coverage, while nursing a persecution complex at the same time.

Oh please. Do you read the Washington Post? They have a new negative article about him almost everyday. CNN and especially MSNBC have ex-Clinton people on TV to bash him regularly. His campaign has been declared "dead" too many times to count already (Biden announcement bump, rise of Warren, the heart attack, etc.)

The coverage of Warren was almost completely positive until the Medicare For All debacle which was her own campaign's fault.

The sour grapes are too much, the race isn't over yet. Things may turn again before voting even starts.
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« Reply #731 on: January 02, 2020, 05:02:58 PM »

Congrats to Bernie, it's an impressive number.

That said, Bernie has skated by a whole year so far without real media scrutiny. To the extent there have been any attacks on his policies, like Medicare for All, it's been directed at Warren. They've gone straight from ignoring him (which his supporters were able to paint as bad) to giving him positive coverage. His campaign gets to have its cake and eat it too: neutral to positive coverage, while nursing a persecution complex at the same time.

Really?

Oh please. Do you read the Washington Post? They have a new negative article about him almost everyday.

I just did a search of the last 7 days' coverage of him. Here are a list of all the headlines with his name in it:

Bernie Sanders campaign announces a massive cash haul of $34.5 million in the fourth quarter
Sanders and Trump surge, Biden rebounds in fundraising race
Sanders says he’ll enact national drinking water standards (x2)
Bernie Sanders on Elizabeth Warren: ‘Not my style’ to make ‘personal attacks’ (x2)
Sanders releases doctors’ letters saying he’s fit for presidency, three months after heart attack
Doctors: Sanders fit enough for presidency post-heart attack
Sen. Bernie Sanders releases health records saying he is fit for the presidency
Bernie Sanders warns against religious bigotry hours after Hasidic Jews are stabbed in N.Y.
Bernie Sanders staffers complained about the campaign’s use of Amazon, a frequent Sanders target

Out of these 9 headlines, there is 1 that is negative, and it's only because his own staff complained. The rest are either pushing his message or positive. The health headlines do not mention that he didn't release his full medical records (Warren did). The story of him making an attack on Warren frames it so that it's not an attack. He's gotten very positive coverage don't deny it.
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« Reply #732 on: January 02, 2020, 05:56:38 PM »

Congrats to Bernie, it's an impressive number.

That said, Bernie has skated by a whole year so far without real media scrutiny. To the extent there have been any attacks on his policies, like Medicare for All, it's been directed at Warren. They've gone straight from ignoring him (which his supporters were able to paint as bad) to giving him positive coverage. His campaign gets to have its cake and eat it too: neutral to positive coverage, while nursing a persecution complex at the same time.

Really?

Oh please. Do you read the Washington Post? They have a new negative article about him almost everyday.

I just did a search of the last 7 days' coverage of him. Here are a list of all the headlines with his name in it:

Bernie Sanders campaign announces a massive cash haul of $34.5 million in the fourth quarter
Sanders and Trump surge, Biden rebounds in fundraising race
Sanders says he’ll enact national drinking water standards (x2)
Bernie Sanders on Elizabeth Warren: ‘Not my style’ to make ‘personal attacks’ (x2)
Sanders releases doctors’ letters saying he’s fit for presidency, three months after heart attack
Doctors: Sanders fit enough for presidency post-heart attack
Sen. Bernie Sanders releases health records saying he is fit for the presidency
Bernie Sanders warns against religious bigotry hours after Hasidic Jews are stabbed in N.Y.
Bernie Sanders staffers complained about the campaign’s use of Amazon, a frequent Sanders target

Out of these 9 headlines, there is 1 that is negative, and it's only because his own staff complained. The rest are either pushing his message or positive. The health headlines do not mention that he didn't release his full medical records (Warren did). The story of him making an attack on Warren frames it so that it's not an attack. He's gotten very positive coverage don't deny it.

So you picked out articles from one of the best weeks of his campaign, most of them are neutral but they still managed to get in a ridiculous negative article on a complete non-issue. That looks about right.

Also noticed that you haven't denied that there are Clinton people on cable news attacking him regularly.
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« Reply #733 on: January 02, 2020, 06:18:14 PM »

Congrats to Bernie, it's an impressive number.

That said, Bernie has skated by a whole year so far without real media scrutiny. To the extent there have been any attacks on his policies, like Medicare for All, it's been directed at Warren. They've gone straight from ignoring him (which his supporters were able to paint as bad) to giving him positive coverage. His campaign gets to have its cake and eat it too: neutral to positive coverage, while nursing a persecution complex at the same time.

Really?

Oh please. Do you read the Washington Post? They have a new negative article about him almost everyday.

I just did a search of the last 7 days' coverage of him. Here are a list of all the headlines with his name in it:

Bernie Sanders campaign announces a massive cash haul of $34.5 million in the fourth quarter
Sanders and Trump surge, Biden rebounds in fundraising race
Sanders says he’ll enact national drinking water standards (x2)
Bernie Sanders on Elizabeth Warren: ‘Not my style’ to make ‘personal attacks’ (x2)
Sanders releases doctors’ letters saying he’s fit for presidency, three months after heart attack
Doctors: Sanders fit enough for presidency post-heart attack
Sen. Bernie Sanders releases health records saying he is fit for the presidency
Bernie Sanders warns against religious bigotry hours after Hasidic Jews are stabbed in N.Y.
Bernie Sanders staffers complained about the campaign’s use of Amazon, a frequent Sanders target

Out of these 9 headlines, there is 1 that is negative, and it's only because his own staff complained. The rest are either pushing his message or positive. The health headlines do not mention that he didn't release his full medical records (Warren did). The story of him making an attack on Warren frames it so that it's not an attack. He's gotten very positive coverage don't deny it.

So you picked out articles from one of the best weeks of his campaign, most of them are neutral but they still managed to get in a ridiculous negative article on a complete non-issue. That looks about right.

Also noticed that you haven't denied that there are Clinton people on cable news attacking him regularly.

I'll deny that, lol.  There's more people on cable news attacking Biden and Warren and Pete than there are attacking Sanders.

The #BernieBlackout whiners always point to the same two or three incidences of invited guests saying unfair things about Sanders as proof of a giant conspiracy against him on cable news. It's absurdly childish and utterly pathetic.
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« Reply #734 on: January 02, 2020, 06:50:16 PM »

If Bernie had any sense he'd turn this into an attack ad running on heavy rotation until Iowa.

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« Reply #735 on: January 02, 2020, 06:54:13 PM »

Congrats to Bernie, it's an impressive number.

That said, Bernie has skated by a whole year so far without real media scrutiny. To the extent there have been any attacks on his policies, like Medicare for All, it's been directed at Warren. They've gone straight from ignoring him (which his supporters were able to paint as bad) to giving him positive coverage. His campaign gets to have its cake and eat it too: neutral to positive coverage, while nursing a persecution complex at the same time.

Really?

Oh please. Do you read the Washington Post? They have a new negative article about him almost everyday.

I just did a search of the last 7 days' coverage of him. Here are a list of all the headlines with his name in it:

Bernie Sanders campaign announces a massive cash haul of $34.5 million in the fourth quarter
Sanders and Trump surge, Biden rebounds in fundraising race
Sanders says he’ll enact national drinking water standards (x2)
Bernie Sanders on Elizabeth Warren: ‘Not my style’ to make ‘personal attacks’ (x2)
Sanders releases doctors’ letters saying he’s fit for presidency, three months after heart attack
Doctors: Sanders fit enough for presidency post-heart attack
Sen. Bernie Sanders releases health records saying he is fit for the presidency
Bernie Sanders warns against religious bigotry hours after Hasidic Jews are stabbed in N.Y.
Bernie Sanders staffers complained about the campaign’s use of Amazon, a frequent Sanders target

Out of these 9 headlines, there is 1 that is negative, and it's only because his own staff complained. The rest are either pushing his message or positive. The health headlines do not mention that he didn't release his full medical records (Warren did). The story of him making an attack on Warren frames it so that it's not an attack. He's gotten very positive coverage don't deny it.

So you picked out articles from one of the best weeks of his campaign, most of them are neutral but they still managed to get in a ridiculous negative article on a complete non-issue. That looks about right.

Also noticed that you haven't denied that there are Clinton people on cable news attacking him regularly.

I'll deny that, lol.  There's more people on cable news attacking Biden and Warren and Pete than there are attacking Sanders.

The #BernieBlackout whiners always point to the same two or three incidences of invited guests saying unfair things about Sanders as proof of a giant conspiracy against him on cable news. It's absurdly childish and utterly pathetic.

Yeah but nobody takes you seriously at all, probably because you say stuff like this.
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« Reply #736 on: January 02, 2020, 07:02:11 PM »

When they can't argue, they turn to personal attacks.

Yeah there may not actually be a secret conspiracy by Clinton forces to trash Sanders on CNN, but if you call GeneralMacarthur an idiot then you're safe and automatically right.
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« Reply #737 on: January 02, 2020, 07:04:52 PM »

When they can't argue, they turn to personal attacks.

Yeah there may not actually be a secret conspiracy by Clinton forces to trash Sanders on CNN, but if you call GeneralMacarthur an idiot then you're safe and automatically right.

I didn't call you an idiot. I know you know what you're doing.
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« Reply #738 on: January 02, 2020, 07:15:52 PM »

When they can't argue, they turn to personal attacks.

Yeah there may not actually be a secret conspiracy by Clinton forces to trash Sanders on CNN, but if you call GeneralMacarthur an idiot then you're safe and automatically right.

Irony!
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« Reply #739 on: January 02, 2020, 11:07:49 PM »

This Iran crisis may be a huge opening for Sanders, as he's been hitting Biden a lot on Iraq recently. It didn't look like foreign policy was going to play a huge role in this election, but since it seems that might change Sanders can definitely make the case we need a complete overhaul in the area, especially on interventionism.
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« Reply #740 on: January 03, 2020, 12:12:41 AM »




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« Reply #741 on: January 03, 2020, 12:33:25 AM »

Biden is incapable of uttering a sentence with any actual substance. Those being the rare occasions where he is able to utter a sentence.
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« Reply #742 on: January 03, 2020, 03:18:27 AM »

Is the Biden "comeback" supposed to be a shot at Bernie's age? He is literally one year younger...
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« Reply #743 on: January 03, 2020, 09:36:05 AM »

Is the Biden "comeback" supposed to be a shot at Bernie's age? He is literally one year younger...

Yea, that’s a really weak clapback.  And thanks for explaining yearbooks, Sniffy.
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« Reply #744 on: January 03, 2020, 07:18:27 PM »

Bernie needs to take the gloves off run some negative ads for once. Hammer Joe on wanting to cut Social Security, voting for Iraq. The only way to beat Biden is by driving up his negatives with attack ads.
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« Reply #745 on: January 03, 2020, 08:49:24 PM »

Bernie needs to take the gloves off run some negative ads for once. Hammer Joe on wanting to cut Social Security, voting for Iraq. The only way to beat Biden is by driving up his negatives with attack ads.

And how well did that work for trying that on Trump in 2015-6? Hell, how did that work out for Harris [granted, I hardly consider that the primary reason things didn't work out...but still] or Castro?

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« Reply #746 on: January 03, 2020, 09:09:03 PM »

Surrogates need to get tougher on Pete. If Sanders wins IA, he wins NH by a sizable margin and then probably wins NV. He can afford to lose IA, but it wouldn't be a good look. Pete's his main competitor in Iowa, so while he needs to focus on countering Biden elsewhere, Iowa will be decided between Pete and Bernie.
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« Reply #747 on: January 03, 2020, 10:20:52 PM »

Bernie needs to take the gloves off run some negative ads for once. Hammer Joe on wanting to cut Social Security, voting for Iraq. The only way to beat Biden is by driving up his negatives with attack ads.

And how well did that work for trying that on Trump in 2015-6? Hell, how did that work out for Harris [granted, I hardly consider that the primary reason things didn't work out...but still] or Castro?



Because Harris/Castro's hit Biden on dumb stuff, busing & his memory. Hitting Biden on Social Security would resonate since most of his base is over 65 and its always been a third rail issue. Put this clip in a 30 sec ad and it'll leave much more of a mark than busing.

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« Reply #748 on: January 04, 2020, 12:44:57 AM »

David Sirota is walking evidence of how morally and ethically bankrupt the Sanders campaign is.

I shouldn't even have to tell you that this video is out-of-context and incredibly misleading.  You should just know it from the fact that it's in a Sirota tweet.
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« Reply #749 on: January 04, 2020, 06:30:22 AM »

Is the Biden "comeback" supposed to be a shot at Bernie's age? He is literally one year younger...

No, it's some high school saying from 60 years ago.
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