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CumbrianLefty
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« on: September 09, 2019, 06:16:42 PM »

As of the question at hand, I think the UK should leave the EU. Britain was never really committed to the cause of European integration, so a close partnership based on a mutually beneficial deal would be best for both sides, as neither side wants to cut natural ties betwen the isles and the continent.

If at some point in the future the UK wants to rejoin, we'd just go through the normal process of accession. Nullifying the referendum or simply holding another one wouldn't benefit anybody.

You have heard the likes of Mark Francois, right?
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2019, 05:33:00 AM »

At this point, there needs to be a referendum asking the people what kind of Brexit they want (or no Brexit at all if their opinions have changed). No one was arguing that the UK should leave the EU without a deal back in 2016, so it is completely ludicrous to say that leaving without a deal is the "will of the people" and doing so would likely cause civil unrest and, quite possibly, the dissolution of the union. That said, Parliament just deciding to remain indefinitely any other kind of public vote (asking for extension after extension) would likely cause civil unrest as well so a public vote needs to be held on this topic. To be honest, this should have been a two-part question back in 2016, but no one (including Cameron) thought that leave would win so no one planned for that possible eventuality.

Note: I would support the remain option or a "soft" Norway-style Brexit if it were put up to a vote.

Then-Prime Minister David Cameron should have required at least a two-thirds majority before the process of Brexit could occur.  We don't pass constitutional amendments here in the United States without requiring a general consensus of the people and the states, so a similar standard should have been required for a referendum calling for a change of that magnitude.  A bare majority is hardly indicative of the 'will of the people'.  

Too late.  You can't go back and change the rules once the game is over.  Brexit is brexit, the people are sick & tired of these games from the opposition.  They need to leave on Oct. 31 regardless of what Parliament passes to try & stop it.

Who is your source for these sweeping (and totally baseless) claims - Weekly World News?
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2019, 11:36:11 AM »

And maybe its not.

People should remember it was a very close vote, the verdict deserved respect but this country should not be irrevocably wrecked over it. Apart from anything else, that is how civil wars start.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2019, 06:10:57 PM »

Whilst my initial response to that is unprintable, he does also have some unflattering comments about our present PM which appear all too believable.
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